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  • #31
    milw50717
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 740

    And I have to wait until Monday for Santa ....

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    • #32
      Whiterabbit
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2010
      • 7594

      Hey guys, since they are so cheap, I recommend double checking your load performance.

      I used to buy SPS blems and like them.

      -Then I realized my barnes loads in 7x57 shot cloverleafs on a cold barrel on a good day, never so with the E-tip blems. I don't buy them anymore.
      -Then I found my RPR shot groups about 1.25" at best with nosler blems from SPS, and I cut that in half by switching to equal weight Bergers. And even better still with Berger VLD's,

      If you are just looking at plinking on 6" plates at 100 yards, then whatever. On the other hand, there are lots cheaper bullets that can do that too.

      I'm not saying they suck, all I am saying is since they are so cheap, I suggest you double your qualification testing, because you can afford it and there is risk.

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      • #33
        kcstott
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2011
        • 11796

        Originally posted by Whiterabbit
        Hey guys, since they are so cheap, I recommend double checking your load performance.

        I used to buy SPS blems and like them.

        -Then I realized my barnes loads in 7x57 shot cloverleafs on a cold barrel on a good day, never so with the E-tip blems. I don't buy them anymore.
        -Then I found my RPR shot groups about 1.25" at best with nosler blems from SPS, and I cut that in half by switching to equal weight Bergers. And even better still with Berger VLD's,

        If you are just looking at plinking on 6" plates at 100 yards, then whatever. On the other hand, there are lots cheaper bullets that can do that too.

        I'm not saying they suck, all I am saying is since they are so cheap, I suggest you double your qualification testing, because you can afford it and there is risk.

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        • #34
          Whiterabbit
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2010
          • 7594

          Don't get me wrong, I wanted them to work. They are 60% the price of bergers. I did not want bergers to outshoot the blems by double. But they did.

          To be fair, I was shooting custom competitions. The RDF bullets may be better.

          I've shot enough of the E-tips to know barnes will work better for any CA hunting. Both accuracy and terminal ballistics.

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          • #35
            demolition
            Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 271

            Took some of those rdfs out today. Not too happy...loaded some with imr 4895 and 4064


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            • #36
              kcstott
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 11796

              Originally posted by demolition
              Took some of those rdfs out today. Not too happy...loaded some with imr 4895 and 4064


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              • #37
                kcstott
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2011
                • 11796

                Originally posted by Whiterabbit
                Don't get me wrong, I wanted them to work. They are 60% the price of bergers. I did not want bergers to outshoot the blems by double. But they did.

                To be fair, I was shooting custom competitions. The RDF bullets may be better.

                I've shot enough of the E-tips to know barnes will work better for any CA hunting. Both accuracy and terminal ballistics.
                No don’t get me wrong either, I’m apprehensive about these too. Hopefully I can just load and go but if I have to do new load work up I’m not going to be happy.

                FYI Berger 175 VLD’s ain’t worth the money they want. My SMK’s do just as well or better at 100 to 1000 yards. RDF’s suck cause I have to seat them out so long but they do shoot some very small groups. The only reason I tried the RDF’s was the advertised BC. And they live up to the BC

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                • #38
                  demolition
                  Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 271

                  If you want something done right , do it yourself.🇺🇸

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                  • #39
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

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                    • #40
                      demolition
                      Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 271

                      If you want something done right , do it yourself.🇺🇸

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                      • #41
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        3.057" COAL I looked at my data but this is a factory Rem 700 5R stainless barrel. I also don't use COAL numbers either I use Ogive number so approach that length at your own risk.
                        There is about .200" of neck holding the bullet. Get over it. small groups are waiting

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                        • #42
                          roostersgt
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1921

                          I just bought my e-tips for hunting. Ill post the results for 200 yard zero when I get them. E tips are for hunting in non lead states, and for those who desire deep penetration, not necessarily long range targets stuff. The on sale partitions are the same class of bullet, expanding with deep penetration. hunting bullets. Cant speak of the RDF, as I know nothing about them and couldn't care less about F class shooting.

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                          • #43
                            kcstott
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11796

                            Originally posted by roostersgt
                            I just bought my e-tips for hunting. Ill post the results for 200 yard zero when I get them. E tips are for hunting in non lead states, and for those who desire deep penetration, not necessarily long range targets stuff. The on sale partitions are the same class of bullet, expanding with deep penetration. hunting bullets. Cant speak of the RDF, as I know nothing about them and couldn't care less about F class shooting.
                            RDF is most certainly not a hunting bullet, Well at least not for four legged critters and it's lead core too so its a no go anyway.

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                            • #44
                              kcstott
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 11796

                              Ok I double checked the weight of the RDF's due to getting the new scale and now i'm sorting bullets i guess. getting 174.80 to 176.0 and everything in between.
                              I'm going to sort these to within .2g and load in batches keeping the weights separate. After this I think i'm going back to SMK's permanently. RDF's are great bullets they just won't shoot at mag length

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                              • #45
                                nedro
                                Veteran Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 4130

                                How much variance do SMK have.
                                I'm simply assuming you have a pretty good scale, so it would be good to know.

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