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  • #16
    Spyder
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2008
    • 17200

    I've shot a whole bhmunch of really precise 175 smk with varget.

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    • #17
      Spyder
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2008
      • 17200

      Bhmunch means more than many, not as much as some, btw...

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      • #18
        smoothy8500
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3846

        For me a "butt-hole-munch" means something else too...

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        • #19
          nedro
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 4130

          Originally posted by smoothy8500
          AA2520 or 2230?

          I've used AA2520, but prefer IMR powders 4895 or 4064.
          Sorry about that.
          I have a bunch of AA2200. I use it for 6.8SPC
          I do have some Varget also.

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          • #20
            demolition
            Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 271

            Originally posted by smoothy8500
            From what I understand of the RDF, they are a "copy" of the Berger VLD. I bought a boatload of the 175 Custom Comps when they were on sale for $17, which is working well for my Rem 700 with IMR 4064 on Long Range.
            If you want something done right , do it yourself.🇺🇸

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            • #21
              smoothy8500
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3846

              I haven't used the RDF, I've been using the 175 Custom Comps with 4064 for LR matches.

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              • #22
                Deedle
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2018
                • 1146

                Originally posted by elk hunter
                I'm surprised that this isn't talked about more than it has been, I thought it was common knowledge. It's where I get the very best prices on the Nosler partitions that I shoot.
                I used to live in La Pine, OR, which is just a little south of the Nosler factory in Bend. Nice place to stop and shop
                "No personal computer will ever have gigabytes of RAM" - Scott Nudds

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                • #23
                  roostersgt
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1921

                  Thanks for posting OP. Needed some Nosler E-Tips for load development for Cali pig hunts. Super prices on their blems. Also picked up some ridiculously low priced 30 / 270 cal blem Partitions. Thanks again.
                  Last edited by roostersgt; 02-14-2018, 11:27 AM.

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                  • #24
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

                    Originally posted by demolition
                    I just ordered some of those 175 RDF, how many Gr of 4064 you using ? And col if you don’t mind me asking ,

                    Thanks
                    Well I don't know about the rest here But damn sure hate sharing load data on the web.

                    Look there is a very simple way to load develop in less than 30 rounds. No ladder testing, no groupings at first. just velocity data then seating depth. It's not my idea but it's sound and it works every time. 6.5 guys on youtube have a vid on it. 10 round load development.

                    So after you know the distance from the case head to the throat ogive junction datum line brake out the manual and you will find that with PP2000MR the start load is 45grs and the max load is 47.7grs,
                    so in two or three tenth grain increments build one case in each powder charge .020" off the lands like this
                    45.0
                    45.3
                    45.6
                    45.9
                    46.2
                    46.5
                    46.8
                    47.1
                    47.4
                    47.7

                    Ten rounds and all we collect is velocity data. you could go .2 gr steps and have 15 rounds but this works for me on a 308 sized case.

                    hook up the chrono get your velocity data. you will then see two distinct spots that as the powder charge increases the velocity stop changing or doesn't change as much as the last step. I mean the difference between a 25 FPS jump and a 5 FPS jump. These are pressure nodes, Pick one close to your velocity you'd like to be at and pick the charge in the middle of the node to allow for variances.

                    Now go home and load up five rounds each in your new powder charge at .020 off the lands and .015", .010", and .005" and for me because I like to shoot my bolt rifle from a mag sometimes i need to see what mag length will do so five loaded to mag length as well. so 20 rounds total plus the five mag length rounds. go fire each set well aimed at 100 meters or greater. I like shooting at 300 meters to verify bullet stability too. I can guarantee one set of those rounds will produce a one hole group in a good rifle with a good shooter.

                    so you need two trips to the range and 30-35 rounds and a chrono. works out to about four hours worth of work to find a load.

                    But I'm not going to give you my load data. I don't know you nor your weapon sorry

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                    • #25
                      edgerly779
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 19871

                      I have been buying them for years. Some great non lead etip deals .

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                      • #26
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        And FYI the so called blems showed up yesterday. I opened all the boxes and randomly pulled some rounds I don't know what they mean by blem they look fine, they weigh fine to with in .2gr of each other. tipping looks perfect. I had a hand full of left over rounds from my last batch of 500 to compare to. so unless there is a random 168gr bullet dropped in each box I can't tell why they are blems.

                        I would say Smoothie is correct that th ebullet is a damn close copy of a berger VLD problem is I can load bergers and sierras mag length and jump th ecrap out of them and they group one hole. these will shoot a five inch group if you try that. so i have to shoot them .005" off the lands. you may have better luck. but my rifles don't like them jumping.

                        Which is why I have gone back to Sierra SMK's and will be buying a meplat trimmer and tipping die soon. But at $19 per 100 RDF's even having to single load them is a deal.

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                        • #27
                          edgerly779
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 19871

                          They are not all blem often times over runs of a bullet type or weight. I picked up 6,8 spc/.277 etips for 50 cnts on the dollar and sold some on here to cover shipping with a small profit.

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                          • #28
                            demolition
                            Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 271

                            Originally posted by kcstott
                            Well I don't know about the rest here But damn sure hate sharing load data on the web.

                            Look there is a very simple way to load develop in less than 30 rounds. No ladder testing, no groupings at first. just velocity data then seating depth. It's not my idea but it's sound and it works every time. 6.5 guys on youtube have a vid on it. 10 round load development.

                            So after you know the distance from the case head to the throat ogive junction datum line brake out the manual and you will find that with PP2000MR the start load is 45grs and the max load is 47.7grs,
                            so in two or three tenth grain increments build one case in each powder charge .020" off the lands like this
                            45.0
                            45.3
                            45.6
                            45.9
                            46.2
                            46.5
                            46.8
                            47.1
                            47.4
                            47.7

                            Ten rounds and all we collect is velocity data. you could go .2 gr steps and have 15 rounds but this works for me on a 308 sized case.

                            hook up the chrono get your velocity data. you will then see two distinct spots that as the powder charge increases the velocity stop changing or doesn't change as much as the last step. I mean the difference between a 25 FPS jump and a 5 FPS jump. These are pressure nodes, Pick one close to your velocity you'd like to be at and pick the charge in the middle of the node to allow for variances.

                            Now go home and load up five rounds each in your new powder charge at .020 off the lands and .015", .010", and .005" and for me because I like to shoot my bolt rifle from a mag sometimes i need to see what mag length will do so five loaded to mag length as well. so 20 rounds total plus the five mag length rounds. go fire each set well aimed at 100 meters or greater. I like shooting at 300 meters to verify bullet stability too. I can guarantee one set of those rounds will produce a one hole group in a good rifle with a good shooter.

                            so you need two trips to the range and 30-35 rounds and a chrono. works out to about four hours worth of work to find a load.

                            But I'm not going to give you my load data. I don't know you nor your weapon sorry

                            Thank you sir . And I completely understand . Happy shooting .
                            If you want something done right , do it yourself.🇺🇸

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                            • #29
                              smoothy8500
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3846

                              Brown suit Santa stopped by the other day and dropped off 10 boxes of 168's for the M14...
                              Last edited by smoothy8500; 05-07-2018, 7:11 AM.

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                              • #30
                                demolition
                                Member
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 271

                                Yea brown Santa came by over here as well, dropped off some 175 RDFs
                                If you want something done right , do it yourself.🇺🇸

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