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  • cg&p
    Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 152

    Sometimes you mess up

    I am posting this here because I searched high and low for recommendations on how to get a live primer out of a stuck case so i could remove said stuck case and came up empty. maybe my google-fu is weak or its just not out there because people aren't as dumb as me

    i loaded some 308 rounds, thought they would headspace, they did not. since they were primed I tried lubing the brass by hand and sizing without the decap pin in. the case got stuck in the sizing die with a live primer in it. this is how i got it out.



    lesson is don't be a cheap @$$ and try to save .03 in primers. just decap like normal and you won't have to get creative. Stay safe!
  • #2
    JackEllis
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 2731

    I've been able to remove live primers and reuse them by using a universal decapping die. I gradually apply pressure until the primer comes out and then set it aside.

    I can be pretty creative too, as in how to put the primer in the priming tool so it ends up upside down or sideways. Those turn out to be very easy to remove just using the die and finger pressure.

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    • #3
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57124

      Originally posted by cg&p
      I searched high and low for recommendations on how to get a live primer out of a stuck case so i could remove said stuck case and came up empty.
      maybe my google-fu is weak or its just not out there because people aren't as dumb as me
      With the die in the lathe, I use a spotweld cutter to cut around the live primer and into the case.
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      • #4
        kcstott
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2011
        • 11796

        The case is trash
        Heat it up with a torch till it pops then drill and tap for stuck cas remover

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        • #5
          OpenSightsOnly
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1557

          Originally posted by cg&p
          i loaded some 308 rounds, thought they would headspace, they did not.
          This is the real problem

          Since you are sizing a .308 case, use a decapped 9mm case as your cartridge headspace gauge.

          It's cheap and plentiful

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          • #6
            racinjason233
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 1456

            I put the stuck die in the vice. Grab required drill bit and ear protection. Drill case as if primer was not installed. It will make a little pop. Use remover as designed. Go back to loading.
            Originally posted by smashycrashy
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            • #7
              hambam105
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7083

              So we can send a yahoo on a one way trip to orbit the sun in a red Testera convertible but we can't figure out...never mind.

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              • #8
                kcstott
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2011
                • 11796

                Originally posted by hambam105
                So we can send a yahoo on a one way trip to orbit the sun in a red Testera convertible but we can't figure out...never mind.
                the same kids that watch youtube to figure basic stuff are also the ones the eat tide pods

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                • #9
                  divingin
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2015
                  • 2522

                  Originally posted by OpenSightsOnly
                  This is the real problem

                  Since you are sizing a .308 case, use a decapped 9mm case as your cartridge headspace gauge.

                  It's cheap and plentiful
                  Easier alternative is to verify sizing by chambering (or trying to) the empty, sized case in the rifle, BEFORE sizing a ton of cases and starting to load them up. OP's problem was to assume that since they went through the sizing die, they were fine (they weren't.) Verification of die/powder/primer settings goes a long way in keeping you from having to redo stuff.

                  As to the stuck case problem, clamp the die in a vise, and pound the case out with a drift through the decapping rod hole (assuming you removed the rod, and not just the pin; if not, lock a couple of nuts together on the rod and screw it down to push the case out.) Working from the inside means the primer has just about zero chance of going off.

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                  • #10
                    OpenSightsOnly
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1557

                    Originally posted by divingin
                    Easier alternative is to verify sizing by chambering (or trying to) the empty, sized case in the rifle, BEFORE sizing a ton of cases and starting to load them up.
                    Of course!

                    It's also good to use a cartridge headspace gauge (Hornady, Sinclair, or 9mm case) so that you have a quantitative and comparative baseline of how much a .308 case is being sized.

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                    • #11
                      hambam105
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7083

                      Originally posted by kcstott
                      the same kids that watch youtube to figure basic stuff are also the ones the eat tide pods
                      That is what happens when take the flavor out of paint chips.

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                      • #12
                        cg&p
                        Member
                        • Apr 2017
                        • 152

                        Originally posted by OpenSightsOnly
                        This is the real problem

                        Since you are sizing a .308 case, use a decapped 9mm case as your cartridge headspace gauge.

                        It's cheap and plentiful
                        I had not heard that one before

                        I did use a case gauge from Lyman but i was loading different head stamps and some head spaced fine, these didnt.

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                        • #13
                          OpenSightsOnly
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1557

                          Originally posted by cg&p
                          I had not heard that one before

                          I did use a case gauge from Lyman but i was loading different head stamps and some head spaced fine, these didnt.
                          Provided that your FL dies are properly set-up to size the case and that the brass was fired from your rifle, the 9mm case will give you comparative measurements of your fired brass and the sized brass.

                          Use your chamber as a case gauge

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                          • #14
                            hambam105
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 7083

                            Mix-Match 9mm & 308 via case gauge? Makes sense to me. After all, some people here don't see the difference between a punch and a thread starter instrument to install the pistol grip on an POS aftermarket AR receiver.

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                            • #15
                              RestrictedColt
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 773

                              Originally posted by hambam105
                              Mix-Match 9mm & 308 via case gauge? Makes sense to me. After all, some people here don't see the difference between a punch and a thread starter instrument to install the pistol grip on an POS aftermarket AR receiver.
                              WTF?

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