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  • One in the pipe
    Member
    • Nov 2017
    • 147

    Upside Down Primer

    So I was at Oak Tree Gun Club last night shooting some of my 45 reloads from by Dillon 550.

    Click, bang!
    Click, bang!
    Click...?

    Drop magazine, unload gun, and check primer. In the bad lighting, I couldn't understand what I was looking at. Then I realized the primer is in backwards.

    I'm pretty good at loading the primers, so I don't think I loaded one upside down.

    With the Dillon 550, is it possible for the primers to flip during the loading process? Or was it me?

    Also, how do I recover this brass? I can't punch out the primer since it'll explode.
  • #2
    hntnnut
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 1066

    Add a drop of oil to the primer, pull the bullet, and de-prime. Don't over think it.


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    • #3
      seabee1
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 1230

      Originally posted by One in the pipe

      Also, how do I recover this brass?
      You're joking right? it's 1 piece of brass. attach it to your reloading bench in a way that you will see it every time you load, and remember to check every primer for proper orientation.

      That's why I prefer checking every load and doing it one step at a time, in a single stage press. I'd rather have less reloads done right than a thousand I can't trust
      Last edited by seabee1; 01-26-2018, 2:34 PM.

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      • #4
        PatC415
        • Nov 2014
        • 979

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        Last edited by PatC415; 01-26-2018, 2:56 PM.
        It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

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        • #5
          Sniperboy
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 715

          This is normal in any reloading machine. There are a few places it can flip.

          1. When you load it in the pick up tube, or vibratory prime tube.

          2. When you manually transfer from the pick up tube to the primer feed tube on the machine.

          3. When it gets dispensed to the primer sled (usually from a worn plastic "tip" just when it dispenses to that sled). Oftentimes it comes out a sideways, or doesn't get dispensed at all, because of this.

          Unless you get it 1 in every 100 or more frequent I would not be concerned. : )
          Keep calm and carry on.
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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44093

            Yup, primers can flip during the priming process on ANY machine.
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            • #7
              Sniperboy
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 715

              Originally posted by One in the pipe
              Also, how do I recover this brass? I can't punch out the primer since it'll explode.
              Ah to be young and innocent once again : ) I remember myself asking this same question so many moons ago.
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              • #8
                CAL.BAR
                CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                • Nov 2007
                • 5632

                LOL OP. First of all, the piece of brass is worth like 10-15 cents. If you are uncomfortable with playing with a live primer don't.

                But... really all you have to do is pull the bullet and run the brass back through your machine's de-primer stage. Pull gently - don't hit it and it will de-prime easily.

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                • #9
                  jdfthetech
                  Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 189

                  This can happen. Do yourself a favor and always check every round by hand before putting in your boxes. When loading my 9mm I place the bullets primer up in my reused boxes and run a finger over them all to make sure they are all seated properly.

                  Found one yesterday that had a messed up primer and promptly pulled and reloaded it properly.

                  Always check your reloads for undercharge / overcharge / seating and primers. Failure to do so can be very dangerous.
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                  • #10
                    One in the pipe
                    Member
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 147

                    Thanks all for the responses.

                    I thought I wrote that I've been doing this for about a year, so I'm still new at all of this. I'm happy to collect all the brass I can get. I'm sure I'll get to the point where I have too much brass and won't care.

                    I do have a bullet puller (I think it should be called a bullet hammer).

                    I'll make sure to check for upside down primers in the future.

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                    • #11
                      hermosabeach
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19412

                      back to the danger situation... a drop of oil will kill the primer.... so as a poser above commented, add a drop of WD40 and set aside until its time to reload again
                      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                      • #12
                        Lead Waster
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 16650

                        I actually deprime, flip primer and reprime it back in but it gets put in the "range practice only) box.

                        This is one reason I put my loaded rounds into ammo boxes (the 100 round boxes with a grid that holds the rounds, not just a large box).

                        I bought the Shockbottle 100 case gauge and when you use it, the bad primers are really obvious.

                        Just part of the QA process. At the very least, use the 100 round boxes to inspect the rounds.
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                        • #13
                          seabee1
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1230

                          Originally posted by One in the pipe
                          Thanks all for the responses.

                          I thought I wrote that I've been doing this for about a year, so I'm still new at all of this. I'm happy to collect all the brass I can get. I'm sure I'll get to the point where I have too much brass and won't care.

                          I do have a bullet puller (I think it should be called a bullet hammer).

                          I'll make sure to check for upside down primers in the future.
                          I'd recommend taking a reloading class if there's one in your area.

                          Clint Smith...

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                          • #14
                            mjmagee67
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2771

                            I must the only person who has gotten an upsidedown primer on factory ammo....let alone reloads.
                            If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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                            • #15
                              M1NM
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 7966

                              Originally posted by hermosabeach
                              back to the danger situation...
                              Don't be a snowflake. Get the inertia bullet puller and press out the old primer. Put it back in the right way and carry on. Over my 50 years of reloading I've only had a few primers go off and that was using the old Lee Hammer loader.

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