Screw the local shops!

[gunboat]

Where are you going to get it when you can no longer purchase components on line? -- It's coming --

[sorensen440]

Where are you going to get it when you can no longer purchase components on line? -- It's coming --

Do you know something we don't or are you just making stuff up ??

Pre heller I would probably agree with you that something like that was likely but not now.

[swerv512]

i actually bought a one pound bottle of IMR from castro valley gun shop today for $25.99. at that price i bought 2- the last they had on the shelf of that powder. if small shops like them didnt have the powder i was looking for, albeit at a higher price- how long would i be waiting if i placed an order today online? two three week easily is the wait at midway...
if i ever feel that the cost of convienence (and higher prices) is too much too pay, then i'll stop shopping locally and just buy onlie. i dont think that day will come any time soon...

[12GAUGE]

I walked out of my shop shaking my head wondering how they could charge
$24.99 for a 20 round white box of Russian 7.62x39

[ParallaxTactical.com]

I sometimes feel for local shops. It's incredibly expensive to rent space, get permits, pay overhead like electricity and such. However, I do believe in the basic economic theory that if a business can't afford to remain profitable, the probably shouldn't be in business. Protectionist measures for local business just mean higher costs to consumers.

Although on the other hand, local shops can offer service that no other type of business method can provide. There are trade-offs to both types of store.

As an internet retailer, I enjoy not having to interact with customers person to person, but by e-mail as it is concise and quick. However, in your local shop (depending on which) you can drop by ask a million questions and most will be happy to chit-chat. That kind of interaction is impossible on the internet, as the margins are so low.

In the end, it really depends on what the consumer wants. As the saying goes cost, quality, speed. Pick two.

[mif_slim]

hahaha, i just want to know where people will buy thier guns when there is no more local shop. ffl, dros, shipment online guns arnt that cheap. saw an su going for 7oo online and 23 bids! thats excluding s.h dros and ffl fee. wait, no local shop, no ffl, well, there are those private ffl, but with no local shop, their bound to raise prices too, what then? screw them too? then where do you go from there?

[ParallaxTactical.com]

Actually according to economic theory, there should be a rise in private FFLs as the number of public ones go down, as the market still has a demand for FFLs. There are actually quite a few that only deal by referral. The price should stay level.

[jwest]

I always disagreed with the Chief until today. Went to Castro Valley Gun Shop and they want $220 for 8# of Varget. Now... I have 8# on order with Cabelas for 168 something or other and thats after the shipping and haz mat fee. I'd really like to support these guys but damn!! 220?????? n Let them go out of business!!!! I wish I had the funds to open a decent, reasonably priced, well stocked, non grumpy store! I went to Imbert and Smithers and they said - "Can't get anything" - how is it that I can get it at home on line and they cant?

You have this on backorder - correct?

[ar15barrels]

Look, I know they need to make a buck. But $40 over what I get online after shipping and hazmat? That's a screw job.

Let's not forget that the shop also has to pay shipping and hazmat when they order that powder so you can walk in the door to buy it.
Do you expect them to sell it to you for only $20 more than you can buy it online?
That's a whopping 10% profit margin.
No company can survive on that kind of margin.

[USN CHIEF]

Let's not forget that the shop also has to pay shipping and hazmat when they order that powder so you can walk in the door to buy it.


Do you expect them to sell it to you for only $20 more than you can buy it online?

YES SIR

That's a whopping 10% profit margin.
No company can survive on that kind of margin.

not my problem as the customer

I love you buddy.... LOL.

[gunboat]

Hard to believe you made CPO

[cleanguy46]

Where are you going to get it when you can no longer purchase components on line? -- It's coming --

Like sorensen440, I too would like to know why you have come to this conclusion. Do you have factual proof or are you just speculating what you think could happen? Please.....share with the group.

[Soldier415]

[foxtrotuniformlima]

Let's not forget that the shop also has to pay shipping and hazmat when they order that powder so you can walk in the door to buy it.
Do you expect them to sell it to you for only $20 more than you can buy it online?
That's a whopping 10% profit margin.
No company can survive on that kind of margin.

Your argument is very flawed.

So, they are buying it from the same online place as me ? probably not. They are buying from the same place that the online guy does. paying the same shipping / haz mat fees. Their landed cost is the same as the online guys.

They are making an additional 10% over the online guy.

The free market will determine if they can stay in business. Good prices , good service & timely delivery will always get my business. Since I can get all 3 on line and usually only 1 of the 3 local, I'll go online.

But that is just me.

[mif_slim]

Actually according to economic theory, there should be a rise in private FFLs as the number of public ones go down, as the market still has a demand for FFLs. There are actually quite a few that only deal by referral. The price should stay level.

Maybe you other guys are lucky, but the FFL's around my area, the lowest is 75 bucks, average around here is $95, theres even some charging $135-$150! For paper work, com'on! I know it doesnt cost that much to handle a firearm.
SU- $700
S&H- $35
DROS- $25
FFL- $95
Total = $855.00

Dayum! I can get a Su at my local shop for 689.99 with DROS. Thats 165 difference.