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  • kriller134
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1302

    Is this too much crimp

    This is my first time loading lead. Is this too much crimp?



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    ironhorse1
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 1004

    Besides being a bullet what caliber are you loading? That might be ok for a .45 Colt or .44 magnum. If it is a 9mm or .45 ACP then yes it is way too much as they require only a taper crimp.

    irh
    Last edited by ironhorse1; 10-12-2017, 3:22 PM.

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    • #3
      kriller134
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 1302

      Originally posted by ironhorse1
      Besides being a bullet what caliber are you loading. That might be ok for a .45 Colt or .44 magnum. If it is a 9mm or .45 ACP then yes it is way too much as they require only a taper crimp.



      irh

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      • #4
        'ol shooter
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 4646

        Buy a chamber gauge or use your barrel, removed from the gun. Set the crimp just enough to take the belling off the case mouth. Round should drop freely into a case gauge. If using your barrel as a gauge, do not share with other shooters, they could be tight on their guns. Bear in mind that brass has spring back and lead does not. Over-crimping causes low bullet to case tension, which can and does allow the bullet to push back into the case on feeding, creating an undesirable and possibly hazardous situation. There should be no crimp line.
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        • #5
          TexasJackKin
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 718

          That might be OK for a revolver, but too much for an automatic. And like 'Ol Shooter said, over crimping can actually make the bullet looser in the case, by swelling the case below the crimp, and the spring back at the crimp, coupled with no spring back of the bullet...
          Mike M.
          Dayton, NV
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          • #6
            kriller134
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1302

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            • #7
              wbunning
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2013
              • 808

              With a properly applied taper crimp on a 9mm round, you should not see a ring like that. Just enough to remove the flare, and enough so that if you push the nose of a loaded cart against the edge of the bench really hard, the OAL doesnt't change.

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              • #8
                Cheep
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 1321

                You normally wouldn't get bullet set back in a 9mm unless your gun jammed and even then it may not happen.
                Originally posted by NOMADCHRIS
                your asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!

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                • #9
                  furrly
                  Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 492

                  I usually crimp between. 378-.379..
                  Works perfect on my 9mm loads.. But always do the plunk test with the barrel you are going to be using..
                  Good luck

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                  • #10
                    J-cat
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2005
                    • 6626

                    With auto pistol rounds you should apply a crimp where the case mouth digs in a little yet still protrudes out to stop against the end of the chamber. The problem is pistol brass length varies and your die setting may apply too much crimp on some and not enough on others. A better solution is to skip the crimp altogether and just straighten out the case mouth from belling and just rely on case tension. This is easy to accomplish because you should be using an oversized bullet anyway. Use a bullet diameter that fits snug in the freebore so you don't get leading. I use .358" bullets in my 9 as it has a .359" freebore.

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                    • #11
                      rdtompki
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 773

                      I've pulled thousands of coated lead, 115 and 124 grain. I've never seen a crimp line and don't expect to see one. I've reloaded all but a handful of these bullets. Taper only and I'm usually in the .379" vicinity.

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                      • #12
                        9mmepiphany
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 8075

                        The bullet isn't held in place by the crimp, so much as it is by the neck tension.

                        As already posted, the problem is that different cases will have different lengths and thicknesses. You have to find a happy medium between your longest case and your shortest, your thickest and your thinnest...or you could only load one headstamp at a time
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                        • #13
                          DueceMcGurk
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 884

                          I load that same bullet at 0.378 crimp.

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                          • #14
                            kriller134
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 1302

                            Originally posted by DueceMcGurk
                            I load that same bullet at 0.378 crimp.


                            Thanks any recipes you wanna share?

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                            • #15
                              TexasJackKin
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 718

                              Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                              The bullet isn't held in place by the crimp, so much as it is by the neck tension.

                              As already posted, the problem is that different cases will have different lengths and thicknesses. You have to find a happy medium between your longest case and your shortest, your thickest and your thinnest...or you could only load one headstamp at a time
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                              This!

                              The only way to get a super constant crimp, is to have all the cases the same length, and nobody wants to trim trim straight walled pistol brass! Find the happy medium and plunk test your match, and HD ammo.
                              Mike M.
                              Dayton, NV
                              NRA Life member
                              Front Sight DG
                              CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
                              Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack

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