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  • captn-tin
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 817

    case length ?

    Friend of mine was given box of 5.56 brass that has been sized, trimmed, and primer pocket swaged. Case length measures 1.750. Loading manuals call for 1.760. This brass still good to go? Thanks in advance.
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    Bumslie
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    • Oct 2011
    • 5358

    Yep. Perfect.

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    • #3
      AandO
      Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 449

      Load em up............
      .
      1.750 is my target for case length when trimming 5.56/223

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      • #4
        baih777
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        • Jul 2011
        • 5680

        1.760 is max case length. 1.750 is minimum.
        Read your book carefully.
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        • #5
          Divernhunter
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2010
          • 8753

          Trimmed correctly and good to go.
          A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
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          • #6
            captn-tin
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 817

            Thanks to all for your responses... Capt-tin

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            • #7
              the86d
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2011
              • 9587

              I started trimming mine a little short, after doing it by mistake for a while, as the Lyman trimmer broke. 2 loadings before next trim-minimum this way...

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              • #8
                17+1
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 2847

                Originally posted by baih777
                1.760 is max case length. 1.750 is minimum.
                Read your book carefully.
                This!

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                • #9
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by baih777
                  1.760 is max case length. 1.750 is minimum.
                  Read your book carefully.

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                  • #10
                    AandO
                    Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 449

                    Originally posted by kcstott
                    Some books don’t say minimum length.
                    I have a Nosler, Speer, Sierra, and Lyman manual and one or two just state length. No max no minimum just length. Which is also why it’s a requirement to have more than one book.
                    I purchased some SPEER 223 ammo that upon firing measured 1.35. I researched this and found the proper minimum to be the diameter of the bullet is the minimum seating depth. 224 for 223, .308 for 308 etc....

                    I sized this brass and was able to conclude that for 223 1.35 is the minimum length for achieving a proper hold on the bullet.

                    Since the pressures can and do change I reduced my load accordingly and used this brass for plinking fodder......

                    Going from memory here but I believe I never had to trim that brass....

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                    • #11
                      kcstott
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11796

                      Originally posted by AandO
                      I purchased some SPEER 223 ammo that upon firing measured 1.35. I researched this and found the proper minimum to be the diameter of the bullet is the minimum seating depth. 224 for 223, .308 for 308 etc....

                      I sized this brass and was able to conclude that for 223 1.35 is the minimum length for achieving a proper hold on the bullet.

                      Since the pressures can and do change I reduced my load accordingly and used this brass for plinking fodder......

                      Going from memory here but I believe I never had to trim that brass....
                      What??
                      You talking four different dimensions, all we are discussing is case length. Not cartridge over all length, not seating depth.

                      And saying seating depth is based on bullet diameter, yeah,, no. Seating depth is chamber based and is determined by the accuracy of the load

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                      • #12
                        divingin
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2015
                        • 2522

                        Originally posted by kcstott
                        And saying seating depth is based on bullet diameter, yeah,, no. Seating depth is chamber based and is determined by the accuracy of the load
                        I know what the guy's saying: quite a few places #recommend# a minimum of a diameter's worth of seating depth to ensure adequate bullet pull ("recommend" being the operative word here - I haven't seen anyplace say that you should never go below that.)

                        I disagree with that statement as a hard and fast rule though, given the other factors that affect bullet pull.

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                        • #13
                          AandO
                          Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 449

                          Originally posted by divingin
                          I know what the guy's saying: quite a few places #recommend# a minimum of a diameter's worth of seating depth to ensure adequate bullet pull ("recommend" being the operative word here - I haven't seen anyplace say that you should never go below that.)

                          I disagree with that statement as a hard and fast rule though, given the other factors that affect bullet pull.


                          Agreed, we are only talking about the possibility of the shortest case length. Not oal or anything else. For this very reason I used that short brass I spoke of for plinking only.

                          By no means was I suggesting trimming to that level nor did I mention anything about oal....

                          Guess pictures/diagrams: are needed for some?
                          Last edited by AandO; 10-04-2017, 10:03 AM.

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                          • #14
                            kcheung2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 4387

                            Originally posted by AandO
                            I purchased some SPEER 223 ammo that upon firing measured 1.35. I researched this and found the proper minimum to be the diameter of the bullet is the minimum seating depth. 224 for 223, .308 for 308 etc....

                            I sized this brass and was able to conclude that for 223 1.35 is the minimum length for achieving a proper hold on the bullet.

                            Since the pressures can and do change I reduced my load accordingly and used this brass for plinking fodder......

                            Going from memory here but I believe I never had to trim that brass....
                            I think this post was meant for the other thread about neck tension?
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                            • #15
                              AandO
                              Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 449

                              Originally posted by kcheung2
                              I think this post was meant for the other thread about neck tension?
                              No Sir, it is in the proper place re case length. Case length does apply to minimum spec for neck tension and is tied in with how much neck a case has to grab/hold the bullet proper.

                              Guys, please stop reading things in my posted comments on this thread that are not there.

                              The OP had a concern about case length. I merely put out suggestions as to what would be the minimum and my experience with cases I encountered at what appears to be the minimum case length for 223 brass.

                              Again I'll state that 1.750 is my target length when trimming 223 brass.....

                              Peace?

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