Barnes question.

[kevins750]

Ok, so after the recommendations on a bullet weight for my 300 savage I chose the 130ttsx. As soon as I ordered them I emailed Barnes for some data and didn't get a reply. The bullet is very long and at the last groove will just be able to eject loaded.

So the question is can I use the 130 gr jacketed data.

I really wanted to load some tonight and do some testing.

[Shoot-it]

I think you need to use barnes load data i will get a hold of divernhunter he helped a lot of people with barnes reloading.
you will need to load it to the last ring or beyond copper or non lead in general groups better with the jump.

[kevins750]

Anyone?

[NapalmCheese]

Failing any other input I would default to what Barsness figured out. He found that in general Barnes bullets tend to produce less pressure than the equivalent weight lead bullet. Yes they are longer and therefore stick into the case more (reducing capacity and increasing pressure), but with the pressure rings they engrave into the rifling easier than swaging a grooveless gilding metal jacketed lead bullet. Low end data for the weight shouldn't be compressed, even with the longer copper bullet.

I'd start at low end lead data for 130 grain lead projectiles and work up slowly keeping an eye on velocity and pressure signs. If you start making similar velocities to what you (should) make with 130 grain lead projectiles, I'd say you're in the ball park.

All that being said:
Clean and decopper your barrel before switching to the Barnes bullets. I (and many before me) have also found that the Barnes bullets tend to like being pushed at max velocities for both efficacy on game and precision grouping.

[kevins750]

Thanks, I have used the Barnes on other caliber's. Barnes doesn't have load data for 300 savage. So I wanted a little input.

[G38xOC]

for 300WM ?

this is from barnes site for 130 tsx and ttsx


minimum maximum
IMR 4007SSC 68.8 3145 76.5C 3522
Win 760 68.5 3170 76.1 3500
A-4350 72.9 3197 81.1C 3586
*RL 17 69.6 3194 77.3 3601
H4350 71.6 3162 79.5C 3529
Hybrid 100V 69.6 3233 77.4C 3572

[kevins750]

for 300WM ?

this is from barnes site for 130 tsx and ttsx


minimum maximum
IMR 4007SSC 68.8 3145 76.5C 3522
Win 760 68.5 3170 76.1 3500
A-4350 72.9 3197 81.1C 3586
*RL 17 69.6 3194 77.3 3601
H4350 71.6 3162 79.5C 3529
Hybrid 100V 69.6 3233 77.4C 3572

300 savage

[NapalmCheese]

Thanks, I have used the Barnes on other caliber's. Barnes doesn't have load data for 300 savage. So I wanted a little input.

Odd they haven't gotten back to you, as I've emailed them before and have had them reply. Took a week or two though if I recall correctly.

[tonyjr]

I don't like barnes bullets or manual .
I bought some for the 50 AE . To long , it took them 3 weeks to respond and by that time they had changed the web page to say - won't work in Desert eagle .
They were given to a S & W 50 cal owner [ for about 1/2 bottle of H110 . ]

[kevins750]

Odd they haven't gotten back to you, as I've emailed them before and have had them reply. Took a week or two though if I recall correctly.

Might be jumping the gun here, hasn't been long...I just wanted to shoot them when I go t them, I will wait for their response.

[Divernhunter]

Try calling them. I have always been able to speak to someone about questions.

[Spyder]

Ya, they take a week or more to email back, but every time I've called they email it within the hour.

[Ferrum]

There is some decent information here for 300 Savage and 130 TTSX

https://forum.nosler.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30988

**Only from personal experience, they like A LOT of jump and to be pushed fast. YMMV, may cause swelling, consult and attorney and don't forget to tip your waitress

[Spyder]

Did you just assume the wait staff gender?

[pennstater]

Barnes Bullets: [800]574-9200. Ask for Ty Herring.
Mon thru Thurs. Closed Fri.
If they have info on the 300 Savage, that guy will know.