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  • maggie06
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 653

    Load data 45acp

    HI guys, as mentioned in another thread, I'm one of the flood of new reloaders with questions.

    I bought Lee breechlock single stage and am going slow and making all the rookie mistakes, but figuring out each stage before moving on.

    I have the decapping and priming down, bullet seating and crimping down, but I can't find loan data for my combo of powder and bullet.

    Extreme copper plated 230 gr.
    Bulleyes
    powder.

    Lee manual has data for jacketed, but not plated. Could use some data for starting, max, and min oal.

    Thanks in advance, keep in mind this is my first experience in this world.

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  • #2
    polygunner
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 512

    Always use more than one source of data. Three is preferable.

    Use data for lead projectiles for plated projectiles and you'll be fine.

    Have fun.
    Good luck

    pg

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    • #3
      maggie06
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 653

      Thanks. It won't be fun til I get comfortable that I'm 100 % doing it correctly.

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      • #4
        rsrocket1
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 2768

        Luckily 45ACP is a very forgiving cartridge and the SAAMI spec pressures are much lower (21,000 psi) than 9 or 40 (35,000 psi). The profile of the bullet makes a big difference in pressure when taking into account OAL. The traditional round nose bullet is usually seated to a 1.275" OAL. A truncated cone, round nose flat point or hollow point is usually seated to a shorter OAL so the load data must take into account for the shape of the bullet. Along with that, a RNFP bullet may not even chamber in your gun if seated to 1.275"

        Hopefully you are using Extreme plated plain round nose plated bullets. I've shot 1k of those bullets before learning how to cast and they are good bullets. Look on the Alliant powder website for recommended loads for Bullseye powder. Please note that Alliant only publishes MAX LOAD. Start at 10% or more lower and find a comfortable load that reliably cycles the gun and makes it lock back on the last shot if you're using an autoloader. Also try out several OAL's (at below max load) to make sure the loaded bullets feed reliably.

        For instance if Alliant data says 5.7g Bullseye, start at about 4.5g and see how they work, then work up if you feel you need to and simply stay below the max load and if your OAL is shorter than their published OAL, stay below max load minus a couple 1/10th grain.

        Good luck and welcome to the world of reloading. We all had to start somewhere.

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        • #5
          J-cat
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2005
          • 6626

          Do not use 5.7grs of Bullseye under the 230. 5 grains is plenty.

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          • #6
            rm1911
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 4073

            Originally posted by J-cat
            Do not use 5.7grs of Bullseye under the 230. 5 grains is plenty.


            5 grains is the perfect load with bullseye. Works with 230's and 200's.

            I believe it's against the law** to load 45 with anything but bullseye. I could be wrong, but why chance it

            ** keep in mind that pretty much everything is illegal in kalifornia.
            NRA Life Member since 1990

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            • #7
              RiskyBusiness
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2017
              • 2150

              Originally posted by maggie06
              HI guys, as mentioned in another thread, I'm one of the flood of new reloaders with questions.

              I bought Lee breechlock single stage and am going slow and making all the rookie mistakes, but figuring out each stage before moving on.

              I have the decapping and priming down, bullet seating and crimping down, but I can't find loan data for my combo of powder and bullet.

              Extreme copper plated 230 gr.
              Bulleyes
              powder.

              Lee manual has data for jacketed, but not plated. Could use some data for starting, max, and min oal.

              Thanks in advance, keep in mind this is my first experience in this world.

              Sent from my SM-N915V using Tapatalk
              for plated/lead use 10% less than FMJ loads. Start low and watch for pressure signs.
              https://imgur.com/a/yO4kS

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              • #8
                LuckyGuy
                Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 460

                Never assume.

                Originally posted by maggie06
                Thanks. It won't be fun til I get comfortable that I'm 100 % doing it correctly.

                Sent from my SM-N915V using Tapatalk
                Hopefully you will never be 100%. Always double or triple check your loads. Then maybe you will be 100% sure.
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                • #9
                  LuckyGuy
                  Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 460

                  Never assume.

                  dupe
                  Last edited by LuckyGuy; 07-27-2017, 3:45 PM. Reason: double quote
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                  • #10
                    rsrocket1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2768

                    I agree with the others, I tried 5.0g BE under a 230g round nose (which is the traditional military hardball load) backed off to 4.7 which is more than enough for punching holes in paper.

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                    • #11
                      Don the savage
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 2094

                      Originally posted by rm1911
                      5 grains is the perfect load with bullseye. Works with 230's and 200's.

                      I believe it's against the law** to load 45 with anything but bullseye. I could be wrong, but why chance it

                      ** keep in mind that pretty much everything is illegal in kalifornia.
                      Fake news
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                      Originally posted by rsrocket1
                      Of course they are in free territory where they can pick up ammunition at the local 5 and dime without going through a criminal background check. All we get is legalized pot.

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                      • #12
                        pennstater
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 4656

                        Well, I'm loading up some 230gr X-treme plated as we speak. 5.8-6.0 of Unique will be a very good load. This is a very accurate load in my Springfield 1911.
                        Hopefully this works for you, if you try it. Research the manual's tho.

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                        • #13
                          maggie06
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 653

                          Originally posted by pennstater
                          Well, I'm loading up some 230gr X-treme plated as we speak. 5.8-6.0 of Unique will be a very good load. This is a very accurate load in my Springfield 1911.
                          Hopefully this works for you, if you try it. Research the manual's tho.
                          Although I'm a rookie I know that different brands are not created equal.

                          If I was using Unique, I would definitely try out your advice, but with Bullseye, according to other posters, it might be too much.

                          So much to learn.

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                          • #14
                            rm1911
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 4073

                            Originally posted by Don the savage
                            Fake news

                            Win 231/hp38 FTW


                            I saw the story on CNN. Had to be to true.
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                            They're not liberals, they're leftists. Please don't use the former for the latter. Liberals are Locke, Jefferson, Burke, Hayek. Leftists are progressives, Prussian state-socialists, fascists. Liberals stand against the state and unequivocally support liberty. Leftists support state tyranny.

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                            • #15
                              JagerDog
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                              • May 2011
                              • 14495

                              Hard to go wrong with 1.230" COAL in 45 ACP.

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