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  • #31
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 56973

    Originally posted by Hans Gruber
    My question is, would these RCBS dies be just as good or better for $20 more?
    I have never used those dies so I can't render an informed opinion.
    Randall Rausch

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    • #32
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 56973

      Originally posted by Hans Gruber
      Are "722-771 C-I Type S Full Length Bushing Die $50" and "722-551 C-I Competition Seating Die $96" the same as what comes in the two piece match set from the list?
      Yes.
      Randall Rausch

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      • #33
        Hans Gruber
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 1901

        Midway has "Redding Type S Match Bushing 2-Die Set 308 Winchester" in stock now by the way. Just ordered mine along w/a tumbler. Collecting bits as they come available while I hunt for primers
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        • #34
          tknc99
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 41

          Does anyone know where I can get some 9mm NATO rounds?

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          • #35
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 56973

            Originally posted by tknc99
            Does anyone know where I can get some 9mm NATO rounds?
            I'm thinking that you might be asking in the wrong thread.
            Randall Rausch

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            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
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            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #36
              Darklyte27
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2008
              • 9372

              I ordered the 308 and 223 s dies, birthday discount woohoo!! 115$ instead of 130.

              i also got the 244 245 bushings, and for the 308 i only got 1, the rest were sold out.
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              • #37
                Linus
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 1290

                Originally posted by Darklyte27
                I ordered the 308 and 223 s dies, birthday discount woohoo!! 115$ instead of 130.

                i also got the 244 245 bushings, and for the 308 i only got 1, the rest were sold out.
                B-Day discount! Where? & How?
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                • #38
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 56973

                  Originally posted by Linus
                  B-Day discount! Where? & How?
                  Midway gives a birthday discount.
                  They email it to you before your birthday.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #39
                    Hans Gruber
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1901

                    So, how important is the Hornady L'N'L Headspace Gauge? I should start getting stuff in on Monday but I can't seem to find this in stock anywhere.

                    Can I get started without it assuming that I'm hitting my case and overall lengths using once fired brass? I'll be using the Redding FL bushing dies as you recommended.
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                    • #40
                      popeye4
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1534

                      Originally posted by Hans Gruber
                      So, how important is the Hornady L'N'L Headspace Gauge? I should start getting stuff in on Monday but I can't seem to find this in stock anywhere.

                      Can I get started without it assuming that I'm hitting my case and overall lengths using once fired brass? I'll be using the Redding FL bushing dies as you recommended.
                      I've used the Stoney Point (now Hornady) headspace gauge and have run into a problem with it. This gauge uses aluminum bushings that have a specific diameter hole reamed in them that corresponds to the headspace datum line on the particular cartridge (for .308 Win it is 0.400"). The problem I've had is that the aluminum is soft enough that the edge on the bushing gets rounded quite easily, adding an error of 0.003" to 0.005" to the headspace reading. That's a lot of error when measuring headspace. I currently use a Redding Instant Indicator/Comparator unit (it gives good numbers, but needs to be set up in my press), but I'm thinking of trying out the Sinclair bump gauge. It is similar to the Hornady, but it uses stainless steel inserts that are actually cut to match the shoulder angle (no sharp edge to round off). Since I haven't tried it yet, I can't recommend it, but the design concept seems sound......
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                      • #41
                        Darklyte27
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 9372

                        so i got my redding S dies today.. what does it mean when you drop in your bushing in, to adjust the pin so it touches it? the pins screw or the upper one?..
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                        • #42
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 56973

                          Originally posted by Darklyte27
                          so i got my redding S dies today.. what does it mean when you drop in your bushing in, to adjust the pin so it touches it? the pins screw or the upper one?..
                          I never read the instructions, but you adjust the amount of neck sizing before you adjust the decapping pin protrusion from the die.

                          So, if you were to drop the bushing into the die body and then thread the decapping assembly back into the die body until it touched the bushing, that would be holding the bushing ALL the way down in the die and sizing the whole neck.
                          You probably only want to size about 3/4 of the neck so you leave a small doughnut of the neck un-sized to center the case in the chamber.
                          In that case, back the decapping assembly about 3/4 of a turn back out.
                          Now take a look at how much decapping pin is sticking out of the bottom of the die.
                          You need about 1/4" showing below the bottom of the die.
                          If you have less than 1/4" protruding, make a note of how much more you need and remove the whole decapping assembly from the die body.
                          Now loosen the lock nut and un-screw the decapping rod the neccessary amount.
                          Lock the locknut again and re-install the decapping assembly into the original position (backed off 3/4 turn from touching the bushing) and verify that there is enough decapping pin protrusion now.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #43
                            Darklyte27
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2008
                            • 9372

                            thanks randall, after playing around with it i got it..

                            just reloaded 5 rds, the bullet seater is right on.
                            Last edited by Darklyte27; 03-30-2009, 9:13 PM.
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                            • #44
                              Hans Gruber
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 1901

                              Want to give out a big THANKS to Randall for helping me put these together:



                              Time to take the wife out to brunch and then hit the range!
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                              • #45
                                Gnzrme
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 908

                                they look pretty!! Post an accuracy report....

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