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  • #46
    desert dog
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 786

    There is accuracy, then there is consistency. My beam scales are WAY more consistent than my digital scales. But, they both have their uses; I mass load plinking ammo with the digital (Gempro) to get it done quicker, but always use my trusty beam scale for accuracy / hunting loads where I am close to max pressure and/or want to be extremely consistent.

    Beam scales might not display "actual" weight with a high degree of accuracy, but are extremely repeatable with their values (given you use the same surface and level perfectly). Remember, for years people tried to copy Jack O'Connor's highly accurate loads and were getting extremely different numbers. It was found after Jack's death that his favorite scale was off by 2 grains.

    So actual weights are not as important as consistent weights for a given scale. It was also brought up earlier in this thread that calibration weights are often not correct. Another one of the dozens of reasons why you should always work up your own loads rather than copy someone else's.

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    • #47
      hambam105
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7083

      Electronic scale or beam scale?
      Red or Blue reloading equipment?

      I have better gadgets than you and I even paid less money, so take that!

      I'm going cheap and I expect top quality...instantly...perfectly...without effort...and if I don't get it all, my way, then I'm going to argue and blame others as to why I'm not getting the World on my terms.

      Find like minded Reloaders and listen to what they have to do or say. If you know better than do better.

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      • #48
        stilly
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2009
        • 10685

        Yall got faceschmuck trolled to the nth degree... And ya ignored the troll that has left the room after cropdusting everyone...

        Time for a beer.

        Riverside Magnum Range has ladies night tonight, ladies shoot for free! Or was it half price? Damn I forgot.

        I think I will go make me some dangerous 9mm rounds with an extremely inaccurate count of 5.0gr of WSF...

        Let's see if I can blow my gun up with them too!
        Last edited by stilly; 03-30-2017, 6:44 PM.
        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

        Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



        And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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        • #49
          JagerDog
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2011
          • 15361

          OP is confused.

          For one, electronic scales aren't built around"metric system". They don't know what a gram is anymore than they know what a grain is. They see millivolt output against an excitation voltage.

          I would agree that a good beam scale has better resolution in determining which side of the "line" you're at.

          My only electronic scale is a $30 scale (Ballisticascale). Works well. I do find it's response time to trickling to be a little slow and it is most repeatable in the loading (adding weight) direction as opposed to unloading direction. So if I need to take out a few kernels , I'll lift and reset the pan.

          I made my own check weights from a paperclip, a penny and a nickle. I have available extremely accurate digitial scales at work. Any difference between my 2 beams and my one digital is insignificant.
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          • #50
            stilly
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2009
            • 10685

            Originally posted by JagerDog
            OP is confused.

            For one, electronic scales aren't built around"metric system". They don't know what a gram is anymore than they know what a grain is. They see millivolt output against an excitation voltage.

            I would agree that a good beam scale has better resolution in determining which side of the "line" you're at.

            My only electronic scale is a $30 scale (Ballisticascale). Works well. I do find it's response time to trickling to be a little slow and it is most repeatable in the loading (adding weight) direction as opposed to unloading direction. So if I need to take out a few kernels , I'll lift and reset the pan.

            I made my own check weights from a paperclip, a penny and a nickle. I have available extremely accurate digitial scales at work. Any difference between my 2 beams and my one digital is insignificant.
            No they are not. They farted out crap like this in other forums and as it looks, it is just the way OP is. They fart out something ridiculous in a forum and then leave while everyone is trying to breathe and clear the air...
            7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

            Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



            And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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            • #51
              Metal God
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 1839

              Does anyone else have an issue copping someone else's comments on this forum using windows 10 ??? I can only copy maybe 10% of the time . All other times my screen freezes and I need to recover the page .

              Anyways , I'd quote you stilly but I can't . Yeah the OP is not cool and until a year ago I never knew what a troll was . I always thought of the term to mean a guy that lurks and never participates . I know better now that they just fart and run leaving that bitter taste in everyone's mouth . Damn sonsa*****es ! I need to go brush .
              Tolerate
              allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

              Anyone else find it sad that those who preach tolerance CAN'T allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that they do not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.

              I write almost everything in a jovial manner regardless of content . If that's not how you took it please try again

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              • #52
                bohoki
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 20826

                digital scales are all based on a strain gauge ,technology went into its invention and its current design is economical and durable

                just make sure you use the tare to zero often you shouldn't need to use the check weight to recalibrate it unless it was overloaded

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                • #53
                  stilly
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10685

                  LoL!

                  Reads and is silent = Lurker
                  Downloads all they can for free = Leecher
                  Farts out something in a forum and leaves or stays and fights = Troll...

                  I am glad you said something, I was beginning to think EVERYONE had me on their ignore list...
                  7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                  Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                  And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                  • #54
                    Pardini
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 1204

                    Originally posted by bohoki
                    digital scales are all based on a strain gauge ,technology went into its invention and its current design is economical and durable

                    just make sure you use the tare to zero often you shouldn't need to use the check weight to recalibrate it unless it was overloaded
                    There are electronic scales and electronic balances. Both could be classed as digital. Scales use a strain gauge, balances use an electomagnet that counters the weight of the object being weighed and checks the "balance" with and optical sensor.
                    Originally Posted by OCEquestrian View Post
                    Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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