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  • Point of Impact
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1121

    Cheap Crimp Removal

    I sought out to find a way to remove military crimps without having to buy any more loading equipment and wanted some input on what I did. I used a countersink bit chucked to a drill and removed just enough brass to remove crimps. Primers all went in snug but there is a chamfered surface around the primer. Do you guys think this is cause for concern? I don't usually process crimped brass and know that a Dillon Super Swage would be best, but I still wanted to see if I could find a cheap alternative. Here's a pic. Thanks in advance.

  • #2
    smguser
    Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 268

    Done it, works fine. Just don't go too deep with the countersink, or the primer may not be snug enough in the pocket. I got worried that the primer might become loose under the pressure of firing and fall out, so I bought a Dillon swager. But the 300 rounds I did like yours in the picture never gave me any problems.
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    • #3
      old-trapper
      Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 477

      the primers come out looking funn,they fill in the chamfer upon fire'n. I used to do it I don't anymore .. you can get 1k processed, sized, trimmed and ready to fill for 165.00 so i dont bother any more.
      " if your only as old as you feel....I'm a thousand"

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      • #4
        JeffM
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 4359

        C&H Tool and Die makes a primer pocket swage die that's only a little more than $20

        I need to order one to see how well it works. Probably not as fast as the Dillon, but should be a lot faster than using the countersink/deburring method.

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        • #5
          shade1
          Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 183

          chucking up the deburrer will also work

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          • #6
            Bruce3
            Senior Member
            • May 2008
            • 1249

            i use one of these, two rotations does the trick

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            • #7
              Jicko
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2005
              • 8774

              RCBS Primer Pocket Swager Combo... $24...
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              • #8
                rksimple
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2006
                • 6257

                Looks like its a little overdone, but not bad. Chuck a chamfer tool in the drill and hit the primer pocket for a second or two. Thats all you need. And its very fast.
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                • #9
                  Chaingun
                  Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 355

                  Originally posted by Jicko
                  RCBS Primer Pocket Swager Combo... $24...
                  http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=447022
                  This is what I use. The nice feature is you can check brass before completing the swagging process, speeding up the process.

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                  • #10
                    Ugly Dwarf
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1121

                    Originally posted by JeffM
                    C&H Tool and Die makes a primer pocket swage die that's only a little more than $20

                    I need to order one to see how well it works. Probably not as fast as the Dillon, but should be a lot faster than using the countersink/deburring method.

                    http://www.ch4d.com/
                    Has anyone here used one of the C&H tools? DIRECT LINK

                    It looks like it might work well for someone (like me) with single stage press set up for brass prep steps.

                    Till now, I've used a chamfer tool chucked into my drill press. I chamfer primer pockets for any 'range pick up' brass (or my brass that has gotten mixed in with range brass), at the same time that I'm chamfering the necks (following the case trimming step).

                    The downside that I see is I'm sure will reduce the number of loadings I get from each case before primers start backing out. Knowing how much I hate not being able to seat a primer in brass I've "processed", I tend to be a bit heavy handed in in that step.

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                    • #11
                      Rule .308
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2531

                      Cutting the chamfer out like you have done works great for me. I have done countless thousands of .223 and .308 military brass and never a problem, I also find that it aids is primer seating in progressive presses. I chuck the chamfer tool up in a drill motor and then mount the drill motor in a vice so that my hands are free to lean on the spinning bit. The RCBS case prep center has a tool that does the same thing except it is painfully slow. The other benefit I find helpful is that when you have chamfered the brass you can visually see that it has been done, when you swage the pockets there is no visual indicator that it has been done and when you get mixed up brass it is nice to be able to cull your chamfered stuff right out and know that it has been done.

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                      • #12
                        Point of Impact
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 1121

                        Thanks for all the input guys...I think I'll end up with a dillon just to take the guess work out of it.

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                        • #13
                          hotwls13
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1069

                          Originally posted by Ugly Dwarf
                          Has anyone here used one of the C&H tools? DIRECT LINK
                          I have one that I recently purchased. I found a couple problems.

                          1. It feels like to me, I have to adjust the pin too deep in the pocket to get it to swage. It feels like it MAY be hitting the flash hole piece.

                          2. Since I am forcing the pin into the primer pocket, this in turn pushes the rim of the shell against the shell holder. This is leaving two small gouge marks on the rims. I have tried with both Lee and RCBS shell holders.

                          I may be forced to either use a Super Swager (I really want one, but $100 seems extreme) or ream the pockets with a chamfer tool or something. I would prefer NOT to remove any material if it can be avoided.
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                          • #14
                            grammaton76
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                            • Dec 2005
                            • 9511

                            Personally I'm pretty happy with my universal swager. I think I got it from RCBS.

                            I did ultimately buy a Super Swage, which I'm going to mount to my "board across the recliner arms" reloading bench soon...
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