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  • santacruzgunner
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 549

    De prime before resizing?

    Ive been working on my process when reloading and i was curious what other people are doing. I de prime with universal de priming die then tumble. I do this becuase i dont want dirty brass in my resizing die. Then when i resize the decaping pin clears out any media that may be stuck in primer hole. Are you guys just throwing primed brass into you tumblers and then resizing/depriming all in one step? I know the way i do it adds an extra step, but i feel ill get better results in the end. I must add i also swage primer pockets if needed before throwing brass in the tumbler. Id like to hear what you think
  • #2
    bigdawg86
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 3554

    Tumble in walnut media, deprime / size, trim, swage, then tumble in fine corn cob... it gives a fantastic shine and doesn't get stuck in primer holes.

    I just can't see myself wanting to pull the handle an extra 1000 times just to decap before sizing.

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    • #3
      kcheung2
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 4387

      My first step is to tumble it all first. Before anything is done I want clean brass. Then I run it through the resizer/decapper. As the decapping pin pushes out the spent primer, it clears out any media too. From my perspective, the only advantage of a universal deprimer is that they handle the occasional berdan case better. But I have a bunch of spare pins & I've gotten pretty good at sorting out berdan cases so it's not an issue for me.

      I'm curious what these better results are that you're saying. But in the end, everyone has slightly different processes for reloading.
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      • #4
        LeadFarmer74
        Veteran Member
        • May 2015
        • 3105

        I deprime and decrimp the primer pockets then tumble. Resize and trim then tumble a second time.
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        • #5
          bigbossman
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2012
          • 11083

          I size and de-prime, trim/process the cases, and then tumble before priming, charging, and seating a bullet.
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          • #6
            dwalker
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 2714

            For crimped rifle cases:

            Tumble
            Lube
            Deprime/resize
            decrimp
            trim
            prime
            charge
            seat bullet
            tumble
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            • #7
              Paseclipse
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Jul 2011
              • 1246

              Pistol
              Ultrasonic Cleaner -> Walnut polish -> Load on progressive press

              Rifle (223/556)
              Deprime -> Ultrasonic Cleaner -> Lube and Resize -> Trim/remove crimp (if needed)/uniform primer pockets (if needed) -> Walnut Polish -> Load on progressive press using a depriming die in station 1 to remove any walnut media from the flash hole.

              308’s about the same process only I load it on a single stage.

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              • #8
                Chaosh1
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 25

                1. Deprime with universal die.
                2. 30 mins in the Ultra sonic cleaner
                3. resize and trim
                4. tumble in corn media for polished shine.

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                • #9
                  Lead Waster
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 16650

                  I used to, but it was a PITA so now I just clean brass with the old primers in it put it through the press.
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                  • #10
                    kcstott
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 11796

                    Originally posted by Lead Waster
                    I used to, but it was a PITA so now I just clean brass with the old primers in it put it through the press.
                    There you go.

                    Pistol or rifle I do the same.

                    Tumble it all first. then load it.

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                    • #11
                      Divernhunter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2010
                      • 8753

                      Tumble
                      Resize
                      Tumble again for lube with rifle brass
                      Check and remove any stuck media from primer pocket or flash hole
                      Trim
                      Chamfer
                      Uniform/clean primer pockets on some brass.
                      Swage primer pockets(rifle brass if needed)
                      Debur Flash holes(I sometimes do this at other stages while watching TV)
                      Hand prime
                      Powder and bullet
                      The above is for rifle brass. If I am doing 5000 for squirrel shooting etc I skip the flash hole step. I watch for bad brass at each step and toss the bad ones.

                      For 9mmLuger and 45ACP I just tumble then sort small pistol primers with the 45ACP. I also sort out any crushed brass. Then into the Dillon 650 and done.

                      For other pistol rounds:
                      Tumble
                      Deprime and resize
                      Bell case mouth
                      Hand prime
                      Powder and bullets

                      I batch process all brass (except 45ACP and 9mmLuger) with chamfering, bebur flash holes, checking and removing media in flash holes/primer pockets, Uniforming/cleaning primer pockets and hand priming while watching TV usually. All trimming is done outside. Sorting of range pick up brass is done outside also or in the garage
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                      • #12
                        NorCalFocus
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 3913

                        It really depends on what loads I'm doing.

                        Usally I do this for my rifle loads...
                        deprime, tumble, size, trim and clean primer pockets, uniform flash holes, prime, charge and seat a bullet.

                        Now if I'm doing bulk AR or pistol loads, I'll clean it all first, and size/deprime in one step.

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                        • #13
                          someoneeasy
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2372

                          Originally posted by Lead Waster
                          I used to, but it was a PITA so now I just clean brass with the old primers in it put it through the press.
                          This, no need to make it overly complicated. And please explain what or how is it better?

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                          • #14
                            wbunning
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 808

                            I shoot primarily pistol brass at an indoor range, so gritty cases really aren't an issue and one could size/de-prime the dirty cases without danger of scoring the sizing die or cases, but I don't. I like to have my primer pockets, clean, though, so I de-prime before I wet-tumble. Not really necessary with pistol brass, just a personal thing. I de-prime when I get back from the range on a Lee universal die that lives on the small $30 Lee press that stays ready for that function only. I could save a step by sizing/de-priming before tumbling, but that would also involve setting up a press with the caliber-specific die each time. Not a big deal, either way.

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                            • #15
                              cvigue
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 1525

                              Originally posted by santacruzgunner
                              Ive been working on my process when reloading and i was curious what other people are doing. I de prime with universal de priming die then tumble. I do this becuase i dont want dirty brass in my resizing die. Then when i resize the decaping pin clears out any media that may be stuck in primer hole. Are you guys just throwing primed brass into you tumblers and then resizing/depriming all in one step? I know the way i do it adds an extra step, but i feel ill get better results in the end. I must add i also swage primer pockets if needed before throwing brass in the tumbler. Id like to hear what you think
                              I do both ways, depending on factors.

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