700x in 40 data search

[pacrat]

Old to reloading, new to loading for the Fotae. I need published data for 700x using 175/180 cast/plated.

Hodgdon site has 4.2gr @ 900fps start,and 4.7 @ 986fps as max. Anybody have anything else to share. Looking for a middle of road target/plinker load for a Glock 22 with an aftermarket barrel.

Before I get 147 posts suggesting a different powder. I have somewhere between a buttload and a crap ton of 700x I want to use for this project.

Thanks

[Bill Steele]

I got 960fps out if my G35 with 4.6gr of 700X with 180gr FMJ loaded to 1.125".

I would think anything in the range you have right now will provide a nice pleasant 40S&W load.

PS - A buttload is a lot, it is going to cost you a fortune in lead to use up that much 700x!

[Pauliedad]

While I know we all have various definitions of the above volume descriptors, and I won't claim to know what pacrat's definition is, I will say I know exactly what he means. Over the last few years I accumulated powder for the long haul and will sometimes order another quantity of a powder based on price or availability.
Fast forward to when I feel like loading. I may look around and say "holy moly, I need to work down that (insert powder here)"
Yes, rifle will work that down faster but there's something really gratifying about cranking out 1000 round an hour on the 650. I like seeing those heavy ammo boxes well labeled ready for use.

What's funny (sad really) is that with my two favorite ranges off line, I've not been shooting in too long.

There is a satisfaction to loading, cleaning, and making tweaks to guns.

Ok, I didn't really have anything to add on the 700x in foytay topic other than moral support and to say hi.

Carry on.

[pacrat]

The Story:

Rather than buy a pistol in one of the dozen different calibers that Grandpa already has and loads for. Grandson got a couldn't pass up deal on a tactical combat tupperware pistol. In a caliber I don't load for.

So Grandpa, being a Grandpa. Invested a well spent $100 on a carbide die set, bullets and cases from a couple of sweet deals here on CG. Powder and primers already in stock.

Bill Steele said.

PS - A buttload is a lot, it is going to cost you a fortune in lead to use up that much 700x!

In this instance my colloquial usage of "buttload" translates to approx 12 #. So 12# X 7,000 = 84,000 / by 4.7gr translates to 17,872 rounds of Fotay.

After the first 500 rounds he can buy his own damn bullets.

Pauliedad said.

Ok, I didn't really have anything to add on the 700x in foytay topic other than moral support and to say hi.

Howdy back at'cha. Back in my more prolific shooting days. I burned lots of 700x in shotguns and 45 acp. Now not so much. As in like, hardly any. So just passing along a love of shooting to the younger generation.

Thanks for the support.

[ducky_0811]

I've loaded 700x with 180 xtreme plated. It get REALLY pressure sensitive towards the top end. I would stay on the low to mid end. Maybe 4.2-4.5gr. Shoots pretty soft, just like in .45acp. Good luck with it.

[foxtrotuniformlima]

Before I get 147 posts suggesting a different powder. I have somewhere between a buttload and a crap ton of 700x I want to use for this project.

Thanks

Like this :

[pacrat]

Like this :

Yes, like that. Purchased 3 of those 12 pounders from "International Trap and Skeet" back in the 1970's. IIRC, they sold for the equivalent of $2.50 a pound. If you bought the "keg". Now, I have one left.

My how time flies.

[JMP]

700X is a great powder because it burns well, works in any common autoloading pistol, can measure a load based on eye-balling the volume since it's so fluffy, and is very cheap.

[Bill Steele]

Yes, like that. Purchased 3 of those 12 pounders from "International Trap and Skeet" back in the 1970's. IIRC, they sold for the equivalent of $2.50 a pound. If you bought the "keg". Now, I have one left.

My how time flies.

Yes, that is definitely a butt load of 700x. Enjoy.

[rsrocket1]

Yes, like that. Purchased 3 of those 12 pounders from "International Trap and Skeet" back in the 1970's. IIRC, they sold for the equivalent of $2.50 a pound.

I grew up in Montebello and learned how to shoot skeet at International in the late 70's (if that's the one near Legg Lake and the RC flying field across the freeway). $2.50 a round, $2.50 for a box of new shells, $219 for a "skeet A" Remington 1100 at Grant Boys. Penny a piece (or less) for 22LR. I went through a few kegs of Hi-Skor 700-X for shotshells with a Texan Progressive loader, my brother used it in 45 ACP and 38 Special and other fun "things". I wondered why his home made firecrackers left flakes.

I don't have any 700X, but I do use Red Dot (close in burn rate) in 40 S&W and it does make a good low to medium speed (700-900 fps w/180g cast) load. It burns very cleanly (because it's running at a fairly high pressure). The only caveat is to make sure you tap the powder measure a couple of times because the 700X flakes are pretty big (not as bad as 800X).

[pacrat]

I grew up in Montebello and learned how to shoot skeet at International in the late 70's (if that's the one near Legg Lake and the RC flying field across the freeway). $2.50 a round, $2.50 for a box of new shells, $219 for a "skeet A" Remington 1100 at Grant Boys. Penny a piece (or less) for 22LR. I went through a few kegs of Hi-Skor 700-X for shotshells with a Texan Progressive loader, my brother used it in 45 ACP and 38 Special and other fun "things". I wondered why his home made firecrackers left flakes.

I don't have any 700X, but I do use Red Dot (close in burn rate) in 40 S&W and it does make a good low to medium speed (700-900 fps w/180g cast) load. It burns very cleanly (because it's running at a fairly high pressure). The only caveat is to make sure you tap the powder measure a couple of times because the 700X flakes are pretty big (not as bad as 800X).

That's the place. I started shooting skeet there in 1968/9 IIRC. Which sometimes I don't. We also used to gig frogs and catch crawdads in the Rio Hondo River at west end of the range. Bone Dry for last couple years.

I use a Little Dandy powder drop by RCBS for pistol loading, and always give a "double-tap" to the hopper between charges.

[Pardini]

Reduce the starting load by 1/2 grain.

[pacrat]

Reduce the starting load by 1/2 grain.

From my OP,

Hodgdon site has 4.2gr @ 900fps start,and 4.7 @ 986fps as max.

Are you suggesting I lower the "start" load to 3.7 gr?

Any idea if that will effect function of a Glock 22?

[Pardini]

From my OP,



Are you suggesting I lower the "start" load to 3.7 gr?

Any idea if that will effect function of a Glock 22?

That's what I would do.

It might affect function, if it does put in a lighter spring or increase the charge by a 10th until the gun cycles.

Can also start at 4.2 and down by 10this until the gun doesn't cycle.

[pacrat]

Pardini, I guess you missed this sentence in the middle of my OP.

Looking for a middle of road target/plinker load for a Glock 22 with an aftermarket barrel.

Not looking for bunnyfart loads, or malfunction issues. Just want to load some reliable non-hotrod rounds for the kid. BTW, grandson is 26 yrs old, 6'2" and tips scales at an estimated 240#. Recoil not an issue.