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  • alexisjohnson
    Senior Member
    • May 2016
    • 651

    different primer sizes on 45?

    Hey guys,

    Just got started sorting through some brass and i've noticed the primer sizes are completely different...50/50 on my batch of brass. I always thought 45's were large pistol primer only?

    This brass is once fired (my own) from different bulk size stuff. What gives?

    And is this a potential hazard in terms of loading a large primer into a small hole?
  • #2
    STR8HEATED
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 925

    Some .45 ACP casings do require a small pistol primer. Do not attempt to use the LPP in the SPP casings.

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    • #3
      Bill Steele
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 5028

      Yes, you must sort once fired brass for LPP and SPP. LPP was the standard until manufacturers started using so called lead safe or green SPP.

      You will learn to be able to sort them pretty quickly both from bottom and top. The SPP ones usually are extremely clean inside the case. Not fool proof but just another filter when sorting.

      I load my SPP with the same exact load spec as the LPP, just the small primer. It generally is within in 25fps.
      When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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      • #4
        John Joseph
        Banned
        • Jan 2014
        • 789

        It's a pita.
        Trying to force a lpp into spp brass is dangerous!
        More "filters" to be aware of---
        Newer Federal and their filial brands(Estate, Blazer Brass, American Eagle, etc...)---most often spp.
        European made ACP---most often spp
        All brands of "green" ammo---spp
        WWB, UMC, Magtech Sport---most often lpp

        Pick the size primer you want to roll with and keep those cases separated from the noncomplying brass.
        Last edited by John Joseph; 08-03-2016, 7:11 AM.

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        • #5
          davek8s
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2014

          I try to sort them when I collect them at the range, then go through them again after I tumble them.

          But it never fails that 1 or 2 get past the inspection and hang up the reloading process.

          I use LPP for 45, but my collection of SPP is growing. When I save up enough I'll reload them.

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          • #6
            sirgrumps
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 2495

            Originally posted by davek8s
            I try to sort them when I collect them at the range, then go through them again after I tumble them.

            But it never fails that 1 or 2 get past the inspection and hang up the reloading process. Y

            I use LPP for 45, but my collection of SPP is growing. When I save up enough I'll reload them.

            I save the ones I find with SPP in a Baggie and give them away when I get a decent amount.

            Such a pain.
            ?The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not a ?second-class right,? subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees.? ?.. "We know of no other constitutional rights that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need."
            - Justice Clarence Thomas

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            • #7
              trackcage
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 1777

              Yes, it's a pain to sort, but once you know what to look for it's a minor inconvenience.

              When I have a decent collection of SPP .45's I load them up and use them in situations where I expect to lose a good chunk of my brass.

              I too use the exact same load specs in my SPP loads. No issues as of yet.

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              • #8
                stilly
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2009
                • 10685

                Originally posted by alexisjohnson
                Hey guys,

                Just got started sorting through some brass and i've noticed the primer sizes are completely different...50/50 on my batch of brass. I always thought 45's were large pistol primer only?

                This brass is once fired (my own) from different bulk size stuff. What gives?

                And is this a potential hazard in terms of loading a large primer into a small hole?
                In order to do that properly you need to livestream to youtube as you are doing it...



                .45 ACP is LP and SP now thanks to the asshats that tried to reinvent the wheel. SO just get a primer pocket cleaner if you are not good at eyeballing two-three together and sort them yet again. Sorting LP from SP is rather fast.
                7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                • #9
                  sofbak
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2628

                  ^^^^ Or use a cheap "go gage"- get a 3/16" drill bit. If the butt end fits into the primer pocket it's large, if no go, it's small.
                  Tire kickers gonna kick,
                  Nose pickers gonna pick
                  I and others know the real

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