Bullet Swagging

[BBR]

Does anyone use a Corbin bullet swagging system. I am looking to purchase one of the 22lr to .224 bullet kits. Anyone have the info on this kit?

Thanks,

BBR

[stilly]

Does anyone use a Corbin bullet swagging system. I am looking to purchase one of the 22lr to .224 bullet kits. Anyone have the info on this kit?

Thanks,

BBR

No. I do not, but why are you wanting to do this?

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[McGuiver]

Bullet Swagging

I have called Corbin up on the phone they are very helpful. The dies cost money, but you can turn that spent 22lr brass into 224 bullet jackets. I will be doing it this year. I have been saving 22lr brass for a long time. Most common is making FMJBT style bullets. I called and asked if they can do 224 cal semi wad cutters. They said yes. They can modify they die for just about any bullet shape you want.

Ballistic Coefficient on 224 dia semi wad cutters is not very good, but for paper targets it is great.


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[Sky_DiveR]

Nothing wrong with a Corbin kit. Bucks, but very well made. If I could make a suggestion. If you're just starting out out and already have a Lee classic, RCBS Rock Chucker, or suitable heavy duty single stage press I would recommend getting ahold of BTSniper (as suggested by Stilly) and pick up a complete die set from him. It's a great way to start without spending big money towards a Corbin "H" press. If you still want to purchase an "H" press from Corbin down the road, the dies from BTSniper would work just fine.

BTSniper also has dies to swage 9mm cases into 40 cal bullets and 40cal cases into 45cal bullets (among others). He keeps coming up with new ideas for swaging that keeps draining my bank account. He makes great dies, it just takes alittle bit of waiting to get them, but you won't be disappointed.

Btw, if you do get into this hobby, try and find somebody that shoots a 22LR with a round firing pin (ie: Single action Ruger). The 22 cases fired with a square firing pin will tear where the firing pin strike is when you swage out the rim.

And if you think this is gonna save you money... Forget it!

[stilly]

Nothing wrong with a Corbin kit. Bucks, but very well made. If I could make a suggestion. If you're just starting out out and already have a Lee classic, RCBS Rock Chucker, or suitable heavy duty single stage press I would recommend getting ahold of BTSniper (as suggested by Stilly) and pick up a complete die set from him. It's a great way to start without spending big money towards a Corbin "H" press. If you still want to purchase an "H" press from Corbin down the road, the dies from BTSniper would work just fine.

BTSniper also has dies to swage 9mm cases into 40 cal bullets and 40cal cases into 45cal bullets (among others). He keeps coming up with new ideas for swaging that keeps draining my bank account. He makes great dies, it just takes alittle bit of waiting to get them, but you won't be disappointed.

Btw, if you do get into this hobby, try and find somebody that shoots a 22LR with a round firing pin (ie: Single action Ruger). The 22 cases fired with a square firing pin will tear where the firing pin strike is when you swage out the rim.

And if you think this is gonna save you money... Forget it!

I REALLY like the 9mm cases to 40 cal bullets... THAT is just CRAZY to do and they look like they will be great to shoot out of 10mm...

[vinconco]

I bought the kit back in the 70's and used it quite a bit. It is a LOT of work to make bullets though. I bought the core mold to avoid using lead wire. Unless you really clean the inside of the rimfire cases they will wear out the draw die punch fairly quickly. SS tumbling pins should clean the insides very well.... they didn't have it in the 70's though, would have been nice.

You will need a fairly stout press so the cheap aluminum ones will probably not work very long. I used an old CH Champion press which was just right for the smaller bullets.

[AandO]

Get yourself the RCBS 50 BMG Press or a Corbin press if available or even the CH Press.

HEAVY DUTY is what you both want and need. That said I bought several sizing dies from Corbin a few years back and they were indeed very pricey but worth the money. I ended up with the RCBS 50 press and even then had to use a cheater bar to get sufficient leverage to press properly.

[Wrangler John]

I used Corbin dies and tools to make open-point 7mm bullets for metallic silhouette competition. The tools are good, but the process of making jacketed bullets should be given some thought. My bullets came out very accurate and could be tailored to a given barrel. Over time though, procuring lead wire for the cores, drawing down the wire to the correct diameter (I made my own draw die) by pulling it through the die, then cutting each core to length, was tedious. The alternative was to cast the cores in a Corbin mold, but the cores need to be pure lead, and all this is more hassle. Next, came the jackets, and here you will have an inexpensive and ubiquitous supply of .22 LR brass, while 7mm jackets were not always available, these had to be drawn from .308 jackets in a Corbin draw die. Then they had to be cut to length with a pinch cutter in my reloading press. Finally, came the swagging of the cores, which establishes the proper dimensions and weight. They had to be lubed prior to swagging, then the lube had to removed after swagging, Then the cores were seated in the jackets, and finally the bullet was pointed in the final swagging die. Unless you can dedicate a press to each die setup, there is a lot of time consumed in swapping out and adjusting dies. I found myself doing more work in producing bullets than anything else, but it was satisfying for a while. Bottom line is that the expense and effort became prohibitive, and that 7mm bullets by commercial producers were just as good in winning matches without all the wasted time. About a decade ago I set things up again, bought a supply of Sierra .30 caliber jackets, drew them down for 7mm, trimmed them and made up some lead cores, then decided I had better things to do, and put it all away in storage.

So give consideration to the fact that making superior bullets from expended .22 LR brass is likely to result in something to shoot, but the time, effort and expense, is going to make bulk buys of commercial .224" bullets more favorable.