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  • #46
    gose
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 3953

    Originally posted by Pryde
    He said it was a Wylde chamber which is most certainly not a match chamber in the sense that the throat should be long enough to handle just about any .223 or 5.56 ammo.
    If you are having trouble with bullets separating in the chamber with your own reloads, I would hazard a guess that you are either not trimming your brass or you are loading with an excessive OAL. There is no reason why in-spec ammo should be having feeding or ejection problems in a Wylde chamber.
    Either way, its obvious that this is a case of Miwall reloads made with questionable brass. There's no reason why it should be the OPs fault except that he bought crappy ammo and continued to shoot it after the first signs of trouble. It ain't easy to toss an entire can of ammo that you spent good money on, but sometimes it is probably the wisest thing to do.
    After I had that round with the "loose" bullet, I got a bit more careful, so all the Miwall ammo was case gauged and measured before being shot, so I know that the ammo being shot was within OAL specs, passed the gauge (JP gauge, not NATO) and that the brass didn't have have dings or visible faults.
    I thought that would be enough to be "safe", but I guess not.
    With Oden on our side.

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    • #47
      mecam
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 4049

      Originally posted by gose
      After I had that round with the "loose" bullet, I got a bit more careful, so all the Miwall ammo was case gauged and measured before being shot, so I know that the ammo being shot was within OAL specs, passed the gauge (JP gauge, not NATO) and that the brass didn't have have dings or visible faults.
      I thought that would be enough to be "safe", but I guess not.
      I would crimp all those Miwall reloads if you still have them.
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      • #48
        gose
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3953

        Originally posted by mecam
        I would crimp all those Miwall reloads if you still have them.
        There are no more Miwalls in my possession
        With Oden on our side.

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        • #49
          Splinter
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 513

          Actually I think the quote should have been, hundreds and hundreds of guns have blown up shooting reloads, AND factory new brand name ammo. I almost did my gun in with factory blazer, winchester, and remington. Eventually you will find a bad run in all ammo. Do a search if you dont believe me. Just make sure you atleast quickly glance over the rounds as you load the mag. That will catch most of the slip ups I have seen.

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          • #50
            glockster
            Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 465

            Wardog, great posts.

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            • #51
              gose
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3953

              Originally posted by WARDOG
              GOSE-
              I suppose it's your business if you want to take up your malfunction with MIWALL, or not to.
              I look at it this way, MIWALL's rounds have lot #'s by the employee who is loading them. If the employee is a real knucklehead, you can make a simple phone call, e-mail, or letter to MIWALL's describing your malfunction. If everybody who had a malfunction with MIWALL ammo did this, and it was narrowed down to the same lot # / employee reloader, then an investigation may remove the 'knucklehead' from the equation, or get him some additional training. The gun parts I make have my stamp on them, which represents my name, my reputation. If one of my vendors, or employees, was making substandard parts, I woud want to know about it since I offer a lifetime warranty on the parts, assemblies I make, even my welds. A 'knucklehead' in my camp can break me financially in just a few years with expensive to manufacture parts.
              ANYWAY- Did you have an opinion, good or bad, about the 'Low Mass' BC setup you had on the JP? Did you notice a difference enough to make it worth the higher priced parts?
              Hmm, haven't contacted Miwall at all, since I figured it would just be a waste of time, but maybe I should shoot them an email. I'll wait until JP calls me back to see what they say first though.

              Yeah, after tuning the gas system, my 16" with the UL carrier was noticeably smoother than my 18" JP with a SS carrier.
              Last edited by Kestryll; 01-28-2009, 1:24 AM.
              With Oden on our side.

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              • #52
                Tweak338
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 4076

                IBTL

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                • #53
                  thedrickel
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 5559

                  IBTD!
                  I hate people that are full of hate.

                  It's not illegal to tip for PPT!

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                  • #54
                    gose
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3953

                    Dude, where's my thread?
                    With Oden on our side.

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                    • #55
                      Tweak338
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 4076

                      Originally posted by gose
                      Dude, where's my thread?
                      Dude, you just got

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                      • #56
                        Kestryll
                        Head Janitor
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 21580

                        Knock off the personal crap or lose your account, that kind of crap doesn't fly here.
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                        • #57
                          Mike's Custom
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 872

                          I have shot thousands of rounds of most all of Miwalls factory and reloaded ammo with no problems at all. I found their reloaded .45 to be some of the most accurate over well known name brands in several guns and I shot all their handgun loads since the early 80s. Their reloads are the only reloads I will shoot unless I reload my own.
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                          • #58
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57002

                            Originally posted by WARDOG
                            I tried to defend the blanket "Dozens and dozens of guns have also blown up shooting Miwall reloads" comment & I tried to make a point to that member.
                            There's no need to defend truth.
                            I was not putting down Miwall reloads, just stating a fact.

                            I can also state that dozens of guns have blown up using federal and remington factory ammo.
                            I have seen several first hand examples of each.
                            That does not stop me from shooting any of those brands of ammo though.

                            Guns blowing up is a 1/1,000,000 chance thing that we just accept by the fact we are managing a tiny explosion every time we pull the trigger.
                            Every once in a long while, those little explosions are going to get out of hand.

                            People sure do get defensive.
                            I was not even on the attack.
                            When I get on the attack, you will know.
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                            • #59
                              gose
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 3953

                              and here's the case:

                              The lower is also back and in way better condition than the case
                              Last edited by gose; 02-23-2009, 7:11 PM.
                              With Oden on our side.

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                              • #60
                                mecam
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 4049

                                Looks like the rim stretched out or something. That looks weird.
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