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  • RedRocket
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 91

    frangible bullets

    Fiocchi Frangible Ammunition 45 ACP 155 Grain Sinterfire Box of 50
    Price: $28.99
    Status: Coming Soon
    Date Expected In-Stock: 1/31/2009
    The frangible bullets these cartridges are loaded with are made from a lead-free metal powder. They fragment when they hit a hard target rather than ricochet. They will not damage a firearm's bore. This ammunition is new production, non-corrosive, in boxer primed, reloadable brass cases.


    pulled this from Midway's website...

    Does anyone have experience with this kind of round?
    Will it fragment on Drywall/sheetrock??
    home defense??

    Thank you in advance for any information..
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    sorensen440
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2007
    • 8612

    No personal experience but they sound a lot like the glaser safety slugs
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    • #3
      RedRocket
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 91

      Glaser

      thanks for the info... never heard of them...

      says here they will not fragment on wood... Looking for a home defense round that will have less of a chance going through a wall with lethal velocity on the other side..

      The Glaser Safety Slug is a high velocity, pre-fragmented projectile, produced in a round-nose style bullet. Against inanimate targets such as wood, the bullet does not break up, providing effective barrier protection. Impact with tissue stimulants causes immediate and complete fragmentation, releasing the core particles in a cone shaped pattern.

      Amazing what a little google searching will do... this quote is directly from Glaser

      Both loads reduce the possibility of over penetration through the intended target. They provide for an added margin of safety. A missed round is much more likely to break up on an interior wall and dump its energy rather than proceeding unabated into an adjoining room. The light fast bullets reduce the felt recoil and are excellent loads for the small compact carry guns and snub nose revolvers. For over 27 years the Glaser Safety Slug has been the overwhelming choice for the "house gun" stored in the nightstand.

      Any one using these????
      Last edited by RedRocket; 01-18-2009, 12:47 AM.

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      • #4
        sorensen440
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2007
        • 8612

        Those would likely do it but I would test them yourself before relying on them
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        • #5
          B.D.Dubloon
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 4873

          If you get some, let us know how they compare recoilwise. I've been wanting to pick up some glasers to put in the bed gun, but haven't gotten around to it yet. I have three pumpkins that are just going to waste, if I shot a pumpkin with glasers would I get a huge/awesome exit wound?

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          • #6
            nrakid88
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            • Jul 2008
            • 3285

            Only one way to find out, try it out... and definately post pics!
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            • #7
              Beelzy
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2008
              • 9224

              I do know that frangible .223 rocks!

              Same felt recoil, same feed and eject, and safe for indoor ranges.

              Definitely a must have.

              PS. I have read of Glasers being too sensitive and coming apart on thick jackets and doing no damage. One incident was with a lowly Down jacket.
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              • #8
                Jonathan Doe

                I have shot a full mag (30 rds) of the frangible ammo in a MP5, shooting full auto, into a steel plate from 3 feet. It all turned into powder and nothing bounced back to me. It was pretty amazing. That was a few years ago.

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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44093

                  Originally posted by topgun7
                  I have shot a full mag (30 rds) of the frangible ammo in a MP5, shooting full auto, into a steel plate from 3 feet. It all turned into powder and nothing bounced back to me. It was pretty amazing. That was a few years ago.
                  I've only seen videos of that. I did load some surplus frangible .308 up a couple of week ago and took it to Angeles. When the ROs saw it, they freaked out! I was lucky that I had brought extra bullets to show them that it is non-magnetic and not a tracer type round. I couldn't believe that their first thoughts were that I had illegal bullets and they almost asked me to leave. When, in fact, I had the safest bullets at the range. Oh well, I tried them through a Mosin and they all keyholed at 25 yards so, I guess I'll have to try to develop a load for them that will cycle my 1919.
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                  • #10
                    Agustav
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                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1172

                    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                    I tried them through a Mosin and they all keyholed at 25 yards so, I guess I'll have to try to develop a load for them that will cycle my 1919.
                    I think the reason it keyholed on your Mosin might be because the bullet diameter is too small for the bore. All my Russian Mosin have .312 or larger bore. The Finn Mosin fare a little better at .309. So unless you have a Finn, you might wanna try a larger bullet.

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44093

                      Originally posted by Agustav
                      I think the reason it keyholed on your Mosin might be because the bullet diameter is too small for the bore. All my Russian Mosin have .312 or larger bore. The Finn Mosin fare a little better at .309. So unless you have a Finn, you might wanna try a larger bullet.
                      Yep, I knew it might happen and what the cause would be. It was easier for me to load a few up than to slug the barrel though. The .311 bullets that I loaded up shot just fine.
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                      • #12
                        liketoshoot
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3810

                        I use American Ammunition/Israel Military Industries 40 cal all the time at the indoor range and they are way better then the reloads that are sold there.
                        They are 105gr lead free and Frangible so they are very safe to use.
                        I also have them loaded in my HD gun.
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                        • #13
                          Tang
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 34

                          frangible bullets

                          Used frangible rounds last year at Thunder Ranch. They will penetrate wood and sheetrock.

                          They turn to dust when you shoot them into metal plates. I guess the big advantage is the round is lead free, in these "green" times it's a big deal.

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                          • #14
                            CSACANNONEER
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44093

                            Originally posted by Tang
                            Used frangible rounds last year at Thunder Ranch. They will penetrate wood and sheetrock.

                            They turn to dust when you shoot them into metal plates. I guess the big advantage is the round is lead free, in these "green" times it's a big deal.
                            I wonder how well they would work for hunting in lead free zones? Anyone think they'ld work for pig? Deer? Elk? Bear? I sure don't see a problem with them working on small game or varmits.
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