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  • jltapia
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 187

    Bullet Crushing Brass

    Hi guys,
    I was reloading some 45 ACP rounds using a Lee press and die set. Some of the shells (3 out of 50) got crushed like the one in the picture. Any ideas as to what could be causing this? I didn't do anything different for these shells.

    Thank you.
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  • #2
    roadglide2003
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 96

    You need to adjust your flaring die just a little more to avoid this.


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    • #3
      trackcage
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 1777

      Originally posted by roadglide2003
      You need to adjust your flaring die just a little more to avoid this.


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      Yep. A little more bell

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      • #4
        jwest
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 3958

        Originally posted by roadglide2003
        You need to adjust your flaring die just a little more to avoid this.

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        Yes, that is usually the #1 cause. Also make sure your brass edges where the bullet seats are smooth and have no burrs, etc. Even if it's new brass.
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        • #5
          Munny$hot
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 3665

          If your using a progressive press and your bell is good take a look at your shell plate to see if you possibly have some media stuck in your holder where the shell plate holds onto your case rim
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          • #6
            jltapia
            Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 187

            Thanks guys! I will try adjusting my flaring die for a bigger bell.
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            • #7
              Psychbiker
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1671

              Bullet should be able to rest in the case hands free on the way up. Your crimp die will take the bell back out.

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              • #8
                noylj
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 713

                More case mouth flare and be sure the bullet is sitting straight. You should be able to place a bullet on a case by hand and turn the case upside down and have the bullet remain in the case. If the bullet tips going into the seating die, the bullet can catch the bullet edge.
                More rounds have been ruined by not flaring the case mouth enough than cases have been ruined being over-worked by flaring too much. Flare enough to get the job done.

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                • #9
                  croue
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1255

                  Originally posted by noylj
                  More case mouth flare and be sure the bullet is sitting straight. You should be able to place a bullet on a case by hand and turn the case upside down and have the bullet remain in the case. If the bullet tips going into the seating die, the bullet can catch the bullet edge.
                  More rounds have been ruined by not flaring the case mouth enough than cases have been ruined being over-worked by flaring too much. Flare enough to get the job done.
                  THis^^^^
                  The flare is important, mostly to get the bullet seated just below the lip and straight. But if it tips as you pull the handle, it will shear the brass on one side or smash the bullet sideways. If you flare enough, AND seat the bullet well this should go away.

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                  • #10
                    'ol shooter
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4646

                    I use a separate Lee universal flaring die for some brass, it avoids having to go too deep with an expander die. It just flares the edge real nice.
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                    • #11
                      BEE
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2904

                      Agreed with the others; put a little more flare, just enough so the bullet sits straight up by itself.

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                      • #12
                        nahpungnome
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 2159

                        We need to talk about your flare.

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                        • #13
                          Dnele928
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 685

                          Once in a while, you just get a bad piece of brass. It happens. Pull it, save the powder, toss the bullet and brass and move on.

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                          • #14
                            jwest
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 3958

                            Originally posted by nahpungnome
                            We need to talk about your flare.

                            Good one. Love that movie, "Office Space".
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                            "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --- Benjamin Franklin
                            Freedom isn't free. Read the Declaration of Independence everyday - it'll keep the New World Order away.
                            Quote: Army: "Your ignorant liberal puke rhetoric is tiresome."
                            We live in a society of extreme behavior with no electronic self control.

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                            • #15
                              jltapia
                              Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 187

                              Thanks guys for all your good advice.
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