Reloading 5.56/223 (in one pass)

[1HitaQuita]

I thought I saw a swager upgrade for the XL 650... On eBay none the less.
Yup, I did: http://m.ebay.com/itm/G-S-Custom-The...138?nav=SEARCH

Yeah & it works great!

[1HitaQuita]

If you REALLY want to spend $1800 then get 2 650's. One to process brass & the other to load it (kinda goes back to what you originally wanted to do).

[ARog]

If I went the 650 route. I could just get two toolheads for 1st pass, 2nd pass right...instead of getting 2 650's?

If you REALLY want to spend $1800 then get 2 650's. One to process brass & the other to load it (kinda goes back to what you originally wanted to do).

[Colt562]

Yes

[milotrain]

Also while the 1050 is excellent it may be false economy to buy it just for the swaging process as it would take a lot of brass to justify the cost difference, you could just buy non crimped brass for the cost difference.

[CGT80]

I run two toolheads to load rifle brass with my 550 and trim and swage off press.

I would rather use a 1050 than a 650 any day. The 1050 is much more solid and is built like a tank. The reason I went to a 1050 is the crimped pockets on 9mm brass and that the 550 was too slow to load enough for 3 shooters to compete a few times per month. Buying brass when I have more than enough available for free wasn't a good option for me. But, yes, if you like the 650 and would only buy the 1050 for swaging, it is a big chunk of money. If my funds were limitless, I would buy another couple toolheads to load 223 on the 1050, but it is much less expensive to just use my brother's 650 that is already bolted to my bench. Call me crazy, but I just am not a fan of the 650. Maybe a bigger mount under it would help, but I don't see any flex at the base, but feel and see it in the ram. I will say, it beats the pants off the 550 for feeding rifle brass. My modified case feed setup on the 550 isn't 100% and the 650 just clicks right along since it was made for it.

There has been debate on the swage tool for the 650. If it actually works well, then a 650 with a dillon trimmer would be quite productive.

[1HitaQuita]

Also if you go with the dillon trimmer you can get the rt1200 or the rt1500. Only benefit to the rt1500 is it has the power to make 300blk-out, and since you only loading for 223 you can save some more money. Price difference only about $75 though

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[Twystd1]

I sold my 1050 and have two 650's. One to process brass. One to load em up.

And 6 other presses as well. You will also need a single stage press to pull bullets with as well as doing setups for die checks and a hundred other uses.

If ya got the money. Buy a Camdex.

-T

[jwest]

[Psychbiker]

You won't be chamfering and deburing on the press. If that's not a problem then I'd go 650. Warranty on 650 is better. The 1050 is considered commercial and warranty is not lifetime.

I got a deal on a hornady lnl and was debating selling for a 650. Be more expensive with caliber changes but then I could use the Dillon 1500 to trim 223, blackout and 308. But I realized they don't chamfer or debur so....im probably getting a giraud or gracey trimmer now and not looking to pump out 1000+ an hour.

[the86d]

Most of the time I just tumble, lube and load on the XL 650.

I have, on occasion, tumbled, lubed, deprimed and sized, tumbled, then loaded... But this is probably only like 20-30% of the time.

Leaving the lube on makes the brass collect some dirt when it hits the ground (even on dirty assphault), then sticks to your paws on brass-pickup, but that isn't much of a negative compared to the time savings associated.

[tanks]

Even though budget isn't an issue same yourself some money & get the 650. It's capable of pumping out more than enough rounds per hour. Spending $1800 on a 1050 just to reload 1 caliber is crazy. ...

Actually, that is the main reason to buy a 1050. Load a lot of one caliber. I have been using a 550B to load 3-4K rounds a month, and about ready to get a 1050 with a bullet feeder as well just to crank out .40 S&W, and use the 550B for everything else.

[1HitaQuita]

Actually, that is the main reason to buy a 1050. Load a lot of one caliber. I have been using a 550B to load 3-4K rounds a month, and about ready to get a 1050 with a bullet feeder as well just to crank out .40 S&W, and use the 550B for everything else.

Trying to compare a 550B manual index/manual feed to a 650 auto index/auto feed when it comes to output is like trying to compare a Ford Mustang base model to a Ford Mustang Saleen......two totally different beasts!

[Spyder]

If costs of no concern, and you're doing bulk .223 ammo, why not just buy it?

[ARog]

Gotta do something in the man cave other than drinking beer...lol

But for reals, I enjoy reloading my ammo. I have not bought name brand ammo for about 3 years now and I plan to continue to reload. Also, with how the guns laws are heading in California I have a feeling it's going to be a lot harder / more expensive to acquire store bought ammo. Just a gut feeling...

As of now I'm leaning towards a 1050...we shall see...thanks all!

If costs of no concern, and you're doing bulk .223 ammo, why not just buy it?