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  • kriller134
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1302

    Competition 9mm load

    Hey guys I'm looking to load up some 9mm for competition and I'm wondering where I should start. I'm currently loading 124gn rn at 4.6 gn of hodgdon cfe. The rounds will be shot through a g17 with 13 lbs recoil spring. What say you calguns?
  • #2
    tanks
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 4038

    147gr with 3.4gr Titegroup will make minor and have little recoil.
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    • #3
      hd-dude
      Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 187

      147 grain RN with 3.9gn of titegroup makes ~135 PF out of my M&P pro series 5"
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      • #4
        Psychbiker
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 1671

        147gr moly coated with 3.2 bullseye in xdm 5.25. Not sure on the pf. They also work in a 5" 1911 with lower recoil spring.

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        • #5
          Bigtls1
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 579

          I run 3.3 gr titegroup 124 gr Xtreme RN @ 1.150 with a 13 lb recoil spring in a Springfield XDM.
          Last edited by Bigtls1; 04-13-2016, 2:23 PM.

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          • #6
            kriller134
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1302

            Thanks guys. Do you have any recipes for 124 gr?the reason I ask is because I have a lot of 124 and want to use it up first. And also are you guys just guessing for fps to calculate pf?I don't have a chronograph so at best I'd be relying on a book. Thanks a lot!

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            • #7
              Eljay
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4985

              You'll want to buy or borrow a chronograph. Most clubs that run USPSA or similar matches have one available or maybe somebody will let you use theirs.

              You'll also find that the exact bullet matters - are these plated? FMJ? I've seen not huge differences between, say plated and hi-tek coated but enough to adjust by .2 grains or so.

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              • #8
                orangeusa
                • Jul 2009
                • 9055

                Uhh, the Lee book has the most recipes, almost all from the powder manufacturers. I usually use it, website data, a couple of other books and make sure they are all in the same ballpark.

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                • #9
                  tanks
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 4038

                  Originally posted by hd-dude
                  147 grain RN with 3.9gn of titegroup makes ~135 PF out of my M&P pro series 5"
                  All you need is 125 PF minimum for most shooting sports. So, that's a bit of an overkill.
                  "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                  "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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                  • #10
                    dwalker
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 2714

                    I currently shoot 5 to 5.2gr of CFEPistol under a 124GR Berrys plated and it has manageable recoil in my Glock 17 and S&W M&P. I was shooting a reduced load with even less recoil but had some accuracy issues. I will trade accuracy over recoil anyday.
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                    • #11
                      9mmepiphany
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 8075

                      Originally posted by kriller134
                      Do you have any recipes for 124 gr?the reason I ask is because I have a lot of 124 and want to use it up first. And also are you guys just guessing for fps to calculate pf?
                      4.0gr Titegroup
                      4.0gr WST
                      4.7gr BE-86
                      3.8gr N320

                      Not guessing, these will all make 1030-1050fps with RMR 124gr FN, loaded to 1.117" OAL from a 5" barrel over my chrono
                      Last edited by 9mmepiphany; 04-12-2016, 10:31 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Batman
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 2637

                        4.3 grains of Win 231 with a 124 grain FMJ. Enough to cycle the action and light enough to keep recoil to the minimum. You can get away with 4.2 if the pistol is happy with it as well.

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                        • #13
                          Enter_the_Dragon
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 1356

                          Bullseye 4.2grn - 124grn fmj

                          Win 231 4.5grn - 124grn fmj
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                          • #14
                            mjmagee67
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2771

                            If you want to shoot competitions like USPSA I would recommend a Chrono. I have seen a 50 fps different between the same type of guns.

                            I notice a lot of people were more than happy to spew out their load, but they forgot one crucial thing, what OAL are they using? Are they loading at 1.100 or 1.135? That could make a huge difference. If your going to give a load without a OAL don't, just stop.

                            My favorite 9mm load for a 124gr bullet in my M&P Pro is 4.0gr N320 @1.125in, WinSPP, and a Bayou 124gr RN which makes a PF of 129-132. Using a Montana Gold HP I nees to up the powder to 4.2gr all other being equal.

                            My CZ SP -01 load uses a 135gr Bayou Bullet 3.7 gr N320 @ 1.120in, FedSPP make 128-130 PF. Using 147gr Bayou Bullets 3.3gr N320 everything else the same also gives me the same PF. Don't like the feel of the 147gr though.
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                            • #15
                              dwalker
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 2714

                              My actual load for my 3-gun (no PF) is:

                              5.2 grains of CFE Pistol
                              Berrys #10299 Target Hollowpoint 124gr
                              Mixed brass
                              Winchester SPP
                              OAL 1.094

                              5.1gr CFE Pistol
                              Berrys #15144 HBFP 124GR
                              Mixed brass
                              Winchester SPP
                              OAL 1.10

                              Both loads give an avg of 1060fps from my G17 and M&P. Have no chronoed them from the XDM or anything else, although they function everything even the picky 2011 just fine. Recoil is not an issue. This load gives the best accuracy in the Glock, have not tested it in the M&P or 1011 but expect similar.

                              I stopped using a lot of the more popular powders and switched to CFe Pistol based mostly on how well it meters but also the availability and cleanliness of the powder. While I dont care much about the copper removal qualities I for sure like that it burns cleaner and my gun is not black after a session like it is with 700X and similar.
                              Fear is the spare change that will keep you broke

                              Call him run-like-hell-when-shtf-guy or dial-911-guy but NEVER call an unarmed man "Security".

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