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  • #16
    stphnman20
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2005
    • 6583

    I use the Lee Scale..

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    • #17
      rksimple
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2006
      • 6257

      Originally posted by tankerman
      The automated dispenser just seems like it would be slow compared to a standard scale.

      I understand the need to weigh each charge for match loading, but for plinking ammo it looks like that auto dispenser would really drag the process out.
      If you're just going to load plinking ammo with a well metering ball powder, it maybe a little slower. But I prime and seat while the chargemaster is going. Start priming 50 cases as the chargemaster starts. I get through priming by the time maybe 15 cases are charged. Then I start seating and usually catch up to the machine by the time 5 cases are left. It really goes fast.
      GAP Team Shooter 5

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      • #18
        BewareTheDuc.
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 25

        RCBS 505

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        • #19
          Sunwolf
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2008
          • 7445

          rcbs 10-10

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          • #20
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57118

            Originally posted by tankerman
            The automated dispenser just seems like it would be slow compared to a standard scale.
            For my match 308 ammo, I start with primed cases.
            The chargemaster will throw 46.5gr of Varget for me in the same amount of time it takes to seat a bullet, move the finished round over to the ammo box and get another case in position to pour the powder charge from the scale pan.
            Once I pour the powder in the case, I set the scale pan back on the chargemaster and it starts dispensing automatically.
            Then I pick up a bullet, place it on the case, seat the bullet and set the finished round aside about the time the chargemaster beeps that another charge is done.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • #21
              tankerman
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2006
              • 24240

              15-20 seconds to throw a charge?
              Originally posted by ar15barrels
              For my match 308 ammo, I start with primed cases.
              The chargemaster will throw 46.5gr of Varget for me in the same amount of time it takes to seat a bullet, move the finished round over to the ammo box and get another case in position to pour the powder charge from the scale pan.
              Once I pour the powder in the case, I set the scale pan back on the chargemaster and it starts dispensing automatically.
              Then I pick up a bullet, place it on the case, seat the bullet and set the finished round aside about the time the chargemaster beeps that another charge is done.

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              • #22
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57118

                Originally posted by tankerman
                15-20 seconds to throw a charge?
                Yes, but that's the whole process, not just the charge being dispensed.
                The whole process is to throw the charge, verify weight, pour the charge into the case and set the pan back on the scale to start dispensing the next charge.
                Don't forget that you have about 12 seconds free to seat a bullet and get ready to pour the next charge into the next case.

                Obviously, a powder measure is faster, but you don't get to verify weight.
                I only use the chargemaster for precision ammo.
                Everything else gets loaded on dillons with powder measures.
                Last edited by ar15barrels; 01-01-2009, 7:21 PM.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #23
                  tankerman
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 24240

                  Prior to owning a Dillion and still when I don't want to set it up for a smallish run of say 200 rounds or so, I start with cleaned sized, primed (neck expanded etc..),after weighing several charges to ensure accuracy I drop from my RCBS powder measure, directly into the case then seat the bullet immediately before moving on to the next case. Powder measure is mounted 10" from my single stage on the bench. Randomly weigh charges during the process.

                  Can crank out a couple hundred in an hour or less pretty easily. Usually only do it with ball powder and pistol cases where it's easy to make a quick visual check of the powder level in each case prior to seating.
                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  Yes, but that's the whole process, not just the charge being dispensed.
                  The whole process is to throw the charge, verify weight, pour the charge into the case and set the pan back on the scale to start dispensing the next charge.
                  Don't forget that you have about 12 seconds free to seat a bullet and get ready to pour the next charge into the next case.

                  Obviously, a powder measure is faster, but you don't get to verify weight.
                  I only use the chargemaster for precision ammo.
                  Everything else gets loaded on dillons with powder measures.

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                  • #24
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57118

                    Originally posted by tankerman
                    Can crank out a couple hundred in an hour or less pretty easily.
                    I usually charge/seat 150 rounds per hour with the chargemaster including pulling a few granules out of the occaisional charge to get it back to perfect weight.
                    That's precision rifle ammo with bullets seated on an arbor press.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • #25
                      tankerman
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 24240

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      I usually charge/seat 150 rounds per hour with the chargemaster including pulling a few granules out of the occaisional charge to get it back to perfect weight.
                      That's precision rifle ammo with bullets seated on an arbor press.
                      How did you setup the arbor press? Sounds like using an arbor press for seating may make easier to get the rounds in and out of the press and shel holder.

                      ????

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                      • #26
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57118

                        Originally posted by tankerman
                        How did you setup the arbor press? Sounds like using an arbor press for seating may make easier to get the rounds in and out of the press and shel holder.????
                        I'm using a Neal Jones Custom arbor press which is specifically made for use with Wilson type hand dies.
                        You can get a similar arbor press from Sinclair.



                        There is no shellholder, the case just slips up into the die.
                        In the picture, you can see a charged case with a bullet sitting on the case mouth, ready to be seated.
                        In use, you pick up the seating die (just to the right of the case, on the press platform) and place the die over the charged case and bullet.
                        The bullet causes the seating stem to stand proud of the die.
                        Then you just slide the die under the press ram (about 1" rearward of where the case is sitting now) and pull the handle to press the bullet into the case.
                        Then you pull the dies back out, lift it up and the round falls in your hand.
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                        • #27
                          NotSoFast
                          Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 380

                          RCBS Range Master 750 with a RCBS 5-0-5 backup.

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                          • #28
                            NotSoFast
                            Member
                            • May 2008
                            • 380

                            How do you like that 10-10? I almost bought one but cost won out and I bought a 5-0-5 instead.

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                            • #29
                              Rule .308
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2531

                              One thing that you need to understand is that with one type being digital and the other being a beam scale they kind of come at things from two different angles.

                              The digital tells you the weight of a given item pretty much instantly and you can add or subtract from it and see the change more or less instantly as well.

                              With the old school balance beam types you set your desired weight, throw and measure a charge and now you know if you are over or under on the weight and adjust accordingly.

                              If you are simply measuring powder it really does not make too big of a difference but if you are seperating cases or bullet heads or anything else that you would like to know the precise weight of then the digital scale is all over the balance beam.

                              I have one RCBS digital scale that works great but I seem to use it rarely. I have a 505 that I have been using for years and years that came in my original Rock Chucker master reloading kit 20+ years ago. I have a couple of 10-10's that I acquired and now use one of those. As the balance beam type of scales go I really like the 10-10, can't beat the functionality of it and the way it is packaged.

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                              • #30
                                paladin1015
                                Junior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 5

                                RCBS 10-10 and one of the best scales out there.

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