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  • rumplestilskinfish
    Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 422

    new reloader. 9mm berry's wont cycle my glock can i decrease the col

    just loaded my first box of bullets.yay. but it wont cycle my g17. or my friends 92fs. so i want to know what to do. i used this recipe
    Hodgdon load data
    col 1.150 ,3.6 grain Titegroup, seller bellot small pistol primers

    I started on the minimum. max is 4.1 gn and i used berrys bullets, hollow base flat nose loaded to 1.150 col. can i put the cases back in my bullet seater to decrease my col. and increase pressure so my g17 will cycle. or should i just cycle manually til he cases are used up and reload more with more powder.
    reloading is like building tiny rocket ships. and testing how well they fly (or dont).
  • #2
    ihasacookie
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 356

    Kick it up a notch on the powder. This is also the reason why many reloaders do ladder testing.

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    • #3
      rsrocket1
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 2768

      As long as your COL is feeding Ok with your gun, leave it as is. No need to decrease your COL because it raises pressures exponentially (especially with a fast powder like Titegroup).

      Try 20 loads with 3.8g and 20 loads with 4.0g. Titegroup is a very good metering powder and you should be able to keep your charges within 0.1g

      If 3.8g works well, stick to it. No need to increase the charge if you don't need to. Just shoot the other ones (it should be safe) and stick to 3.8g.

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      • #4
        Bigtls1
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 579

        What grain projectile?

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        • #5
          rumplestilskinfish
          Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 422

          oops.
          9MM 124 GR HBTP
          and i did have a little feeding problem.2 did not feed on my glock and 1 on the beretta. in 3 mags
          reloading is like building tiny rocket ships. and testing how well they fly (or dont).

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          • #6
            Win231
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 2099

            The first I started handloading 9mm, they wouldn't always function in my Beretta either. I was concerned about overloading, so I started with the bottom loads listed. When I increased the charge to mid loads, function was 100%. I learned that lighter loads may function in a gun with a worn recoil spring but not in a gun with a newer, stiffer one. Sufficient pressure is required to move the slide all the way back quickly to eject the brass.

            One other safety tip: Never use light loads for jacketed or plated bullets. There is much more resistance in the barrel with a jacketed bullet than a cast lead bullet & light loads with jacketed bullets can leave a bullet stuck in the barrel. You'll notice the info for Berry's bullets says "When loading our plated bullets, use mid-range load data for jacketed bullets."
            Last edited by Win231; 02-22-2016, 10:00 PM.

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            • #7
              Bigtls1
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 579

              If you're having feeding problems in both guns, I would reduce your OAL a little bit, especially bring flat points.

              My typical full power round is 124 gr plated RN with 4.0-4.1 gr titegroup with a OAL of 1.15. Feeds and cycles all my 9mm.

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              • #8
                Kmai24
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 1220

                Originally posted by ihasacookie
                Kick it up a notch on the powder. This is also the reason why many reloaders do ladder testing.
                +1..definitely do ladder test. I make 10-20 rounds starting at min and finishing out at max with increments of + .5gr in between. That's just my method though, others will chime in on hey they do it.

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                • #9
                  BEE
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 2904

                  I would suggest doing the "Plunk Test" with your barrel to see if your rounds are sized specifically for your barrel.



                  I was loading Berry's Hollow Base Flat Points to 1.035-1.040 with 4.1gr of HP-38 for my CZ 75B SA which had a really short chamber. This recipe has been extremely accurate for me.

                  BTW according to the Berry's website the recommended COL for 9mm is 1.060"
                  Last edited by BEE; 02-23-2016, 9:00 AM.

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                  • #10
                    rumplestilskinfish
                    Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 422

                    so i will reduce the over all length to 1.035-1.040. maybe pressure will increase enough to cycle. and with the rest of the bullets, i can load with 4.1gn max with 1.035
                    Last edited by rumplestilskinfish; 02-24-2016, 6:32 AM.
                    reloading is like building tiny rocket ships. and testing how well they fly (or dont).

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                    • #11
                      rumplestilskinfish
                      Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 422

                      yup i dont pass the plunk test. g17 barrel it drops in but wont drop out. slight drag on removal. i guess that could be oal
                      reloading is like building tiny rocket ships. and testing how well they fly (or dont).

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                      • #12
                        Mac Attack
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2126

                        Are you sure it's an OAL issue? I had problems with my reloads in my G30. They ran fine in my 1911's and revolver but the right chamber on my G30 had FTF issues. I ended up adding a Lee FCD to my die head and after a little adjustment the problem disappeared.

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                        • #13
                          rumplestilskinfish
                          Member
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 422

                          could be needing a factory crimp. this is my first 50 rounds i have ever reloaded. im trying to trouble shoot the issues. how can i know if its a crimp issue. will the brass have a rub mark from the chamber
                          reloading is like building tiny rocket ships. and testing how well they fly (or dont).

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                          • #14
                            Ben Carufel
                            Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 272

                            Originally posted by rumplestilskinfish
                            could be needing a factory crimp. this is my first 50 rounds i have ever reloaded. im trying to trouble shoot the issues. how can i know if its a crimp issue. will the brass have a rub mark from the chamber
                            The plunk test. It's a funny name, but it's very important to use when you're reloading. The

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                            • #15
                              repomanNWP
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1058

                              As others have said, its your low powder charge. I run a Glock 34 with lighter springs and I've found 3.8gr Titegroup with Berrys 124gr is a good load in my gun, but even then, these are pretty light loads I use for 3gun shooting.
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