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  • #16
    stilly
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2009
    • 10685

    Originally posted by Wykyd
    Well I'm ashamed to admit this was my fault but if it helps someone else down the road then at least i can take splice in that...

    So like i said before the S&B primers say pistol, rifle revolver on them and everything looks almost exactly the same on the boxes. I separate all my primers and store them in the respective classification. When i tried out the S&B primers I didn't notice that the boxes are only differentiated by SP or SR. Thus i put the boxes all in my small pistol primer storage. Well turns out i got a box of SR mixed in and i was using those in my pistol reloads. I am an idiot and this is definitely a lesson learned. Now I have 29 rounds that have been struck and maybe 300 more i have to breakdown.

    At least nobody got hurt(except my pride) and maybe this can serve as warning for someone else to pay attention when reloading!
    Dude just run them through a real gun (you know, METAL) with REAL springs and fire like nothing happened... Guns are stupid just like primers are. They don;t care if the primer is in a rifle or pistol, they just wanna pound it and make it go off... In fact, I think that was why they made guns, to fire those little bullets they found...

    I have just made up about 150+ SoB SRP rounds in .38 and .357 and I intend to fire them at the range very very soon... I just aint gotten around to it yet. I wanna see if I can load up some more powders before I go out. But based on how they fire, when I switch over to 9mm I will try out 100 of them in some 9mm and see if I can switch over completely.
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    • #17
      ojisan
      Agent 86
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2008
      • 11773

      Just as an FYI, I did a "primer test" about 20 years ago.
      5 each of Winchester small and large pistol primers were left for a year on a cross stud in the garage right near the side door above the laundry sink.
      Lots of humidity right there and that year was an El Nino so everything got wet, cold and damp just from condensation a few times.
      At the end of the year I test fired all the primers with empty cases.
      Every primer fired right away, and all were consistently loud and sparky.

      I don't know exactly what this proves but humidity and some moisture really did not affect these primers at all.

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      • #18
        Capybara
        CGSSA Coordinator
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2012
        • 15535

        Isn't true that when manufactured, the lead styphnate, barium nitrate, and antimony sulfide that comprise the primer compound is mixed as a wet slurry, then it dries and is ignitable? I would think the powder soaking up a little moisture would result in non-detonation more than the primer compound getting a little moisture? Anyone know if primer compound still ignites if moist?
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        • #19
          pdq_wizzard
          Veteran Member
          • May 2008
          • 3813

          I would say the primers are not fully seated.
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          • #20
            Wykyd
            Member
            • May 2013
            • 430

            Originally posted by stilly
            Dude just run them through a real gun (you know, METAL) with REAL springs and fire like nothing happened... Guns are stupid just like primers are. They don;t care if the primer is in a rifle or pistol, they just wanna pound it and make it go off... In fact, I think that was why they made guns, to fire those little bullets they found...

            I have just made up about 150+ SoB SRP rounds in .38 and .357 and I intend to fire them at the range very very soon... I just aint gotten around to it yet. I wanna see if I can load up some more powders before I go out. But based on how they fire, when I switch over to 9mm I will try out 100 of them in some 9mm and see if I can switch over completely.
            LMAO man you are always a good laugh!!!

            Ya i need a 40 cal metal gun. I am a "Metal" gun aficionado and I bought a used Rock for $400(i doubt it saw 50 rounds) to use the frame and make a trick 40 1911 but the thing shoots soo good I have yet to decommission it. In fact it may be the new camping/hiking sidearm. I also bought a CZ TS in 9 that I intend to swap out to 40 just haven't got time yet. so i may sit on those rounds like you said and fire them off in a hammer fired gun. Don't get me wrong though a polymer pistol does have its place and i do enjoy them but if I have a preference/choice I will go metal all day long. But in HD situation there is just something about simplicity and reliability that a glock has.
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            • #21
              44fred
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 2399

              Originally posted by ojisan
              Just as an FYI, I did a "primer test" about 20 years ago.
              5 each of Winchester small and large pistol primers were left for a year on a cross stud in the garage right near the side door above the laundry sink.
              Lots of humidity right there and that year was an El Nino so everything got wet, cold and damp just from condensation a few times.
              At the end of the year I test fired all the primers with empty cases.
              Every primer fired right away, and all were consistently loud and sparky.

              I don't know exactly what this proves but humidity and some moisture really did not affect these primers at all.
              I could be very wrong but Winchester primers that were produced 20 years ago are not the same as modern European primers.
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              • #22
                Wykyd
                Member
                • May 2013
                • 430

                Originally posted by pdq_wizzard
                I would say the primers are not fully seated.
                I should have said that I went out today with 500 rounds of freshly loaded ammo using the same exact reloading setup just swapped the primers out for "SP" and I had 1 issue. I didn't seat the magazine fully on a drill so it fell out.

                So its fairly definitive to me what the problem was. Also when I inspected the Misfires from before they look perfect. The only issue i saw was light strikes which I have to assume is because they are SR primers and a little harder.

                I guess the best test will be using a pistol that can give em a good whack like Stilly suggested. It will be awhile but i can report back when I try one.
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