Looking to go with a progressive press

[Ojallday]

Ok calguners I need some advice. I've been reloading on my Lee classic turret press and it works perfect however I'm looking to be able to have a higher out put. I'd like to keep this press so I can do rifle loads one at a time to ensure aquracy. But for my pistol rounds I'm looking to be faster. Any suggestions I've been looking at the hornady progressive press or should I just go with the Lee load master? I'm open to other brands but I need suggestions especially when it comes to the price. I seen this and was wondering if this was a good price.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/632863/hornady-lock-n-load-ap-progressive-press-ammo-plant-110-volt

Thanks in advance for your suggestions

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[10ringshot]

I've got the Hornady Ammo Plant that has the case and bullet feeder. With the LocknLoad bushings you can change calibers on your rig and keep all of your settings without the cost of a Dillon platform. Someone was selling a bunch of new reloading equipment with a Hornady progressive on one of these threads. It looked like a smokin deal.

[say12]

I have a Lee turret press and a Hornady lnl progessive press. The lnl is a good machine,but I seem to use the Lee classic turret press more often.


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[Eljay]

What kind of volume are we talking about? I use a turret for rifle rounds and lower volume pistol calibers but for the 9mm I use for USPSA I went with a Dillon 650 with a bulletfeeder. Totally worth it but I shoot a lot.

[Ojallday]

What kind of volume are we talking about? I use a turret for rifle rounds and lower volume pistol calibers but for the 9mm I use for USPSA I went with a Dillon 650 with a bulletfeeder. Totally worth it but I shoot a lot.

I'm just looking to reload faster. The biggest problem with reloading is time and if I can produce twice as much in the same amount of time then that would be great.

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[Gringo Bandito]

Dillon 650 with the case feeder and you will be rocking!

[Eljay]

Well, it's a continuum. The more money you throw at it, the faster you can go, and the less fussy the presses are. You can do a thousand rounds an hour if you're willing to drop a couple of thousand dollars on a press. I gather the Dillon 550 is about twice as fast as the turret and it's affordable so that's one option.

The Lee progressives are fussy but some people here like them. The Hornady Lock n Load is less fussy than the Lee but more fussy than the Dillons. The Dillons are pretty painless. My 650 just runs - I literally do nothing with my left hand and my right cranks the handle and I can blow through 100 rounds in 5 minutes. I'm not even pushing it. But I have all the extras.

[Psychbiker]

My opinion, Dillon 650xl is if you plan on ever trimming rifle brass in lots of 500+, especially converting 223 to blackout. The 650 will accept the dillon trimmer with a modified toolhead.

If you plan on only doing pistol the LNL will be fine and cheaper in the long wrong. Each caliber on the 650 means $70 for a caliber conversion. Whereas on the LNL, there's lots of cross over on the shellplates and the quick change bushings means no toolheads.

I was thinking bout selling my LNL with casefeeder setup so I can get the Dillon 650 and run their trimmer or a router based trimmer BUT its serious $$$. I reload 7 calibers....it would be near $300 just in conversion kits not including a $200 case feeder and a $600 press.

[rcslotcar]

I have a Dillon 650xl ,love it, scary fast at how fast it works. It does have some mods, runs smooth in all stages. Look up Dillon 650 on ebay for upgrades. It can be expensive for several setups but worth it in the long run.

[MR_X]

I started with a Lee Loadmaster. I spent more time getting it to run without hick up than actual reloading with it. At the end I quit priming on it and I would prime in my LCT but it never ran 100%. Got tired of that and went looking for a replacement. I have a friend that has a Dillon 650 and 550 so I got to play with those. I also got to play with the Hornady LnL. The 550 with the manual indexing was the first one off the list. The 650 is a great press and I had a hard time deciding between the 2. I finally went with the Hornady because I never have to take my hand of the lever to feed a case and place a bullet (650 does come with a sort of case feeder). All those are done on the same side of the press. Also caliber change is a lot simpler and cheaper. Never had an issue with it. This doesn't mean for you not to consider a Dillon but if I were you, I would consider them as well.

[stranded1980]

Well, it's a continuum. The more money you throw at it, the faster you can go, and the less fussy the presses are. You can do a thousand rounds an hour if you're willing to drop a couple of thousand dollars on a press. I gather the Dillon 550 is about twice as fast as the turret and it's affordable so that's one option.

The Lee progressives are fussy but some people here like them. The Hornady Lock n Load is less fussy than the Lee but more fussy than the Dillons. The Dillons are pretty painless. My 650 just runs - I literally do nothing with my left hand and my right cranks the handle and I can blow through 100 rounds in 5 minutes. I'm not even pushing it. But I have all the extras.

This was my experience as well between Hornady & Dillon. If you do decide to go with a Dillon 650 or 550, I recommend buying used; you can save a couple hundred dollars that route.

[stilly]

Well, it's a continuum. The more money you throw at it, the faster you can go, and the less fussy the presses are. You can do a thousand rounds an hour if you're willing to drop a couple of thousand dollars on a press. I gather the Dillon 550 is about twice as fast as the turret and it's affordable so that's one option.

The Lee progressives are fussy but some people here like them. The Hornady Lock n Load is less fussy than the Lee but more fussy than the Dillons. The Dillons are pretty painless. My 650 just runs - I literally do nothing with my left hand and my right cranks the handle and I can blow through 100 rounds in 5 minutes. I'm not even pushing it. But I have all the extras.

What do you have on your 650 that allows that and how hard is it to change calibers and how long does it take?

Costs involved?

[Divernhunter]

I have a Dillon 650 also and it is great. It does not take long to change cartridges. They are not called calibers. Caliber is the size of the bullet.

I have quick change heads set up with powder measures so it goes fast. Takes a couple min longer when changing primer size.

I have the case feeder but not the bullet feeder. I prefer to place the bullet myself. To each his own. I still can turn out a bunch of ammo very fast. I also have extra primer tubes for both large and small primers.

[Psychbiker]

What do you have on your 650 that allows that and how hard is it to change calibers and how long does it take?

Costs involved?

GSI makes a $400+ bullet feeder. So does Mr. Bullet feeder at roughly same price.

With a 5 stage press, seating and crimping in separate stages, it's either a feeder or powder check option. I'd rather have a powder check.

No crimping in rifle so I guess a bullet feeder works. Doesnt the 1050 have 7 stages? I know RCBS' new press has 7 stages.

[Eljay]

What do you have on your 650 that allows that and how hard is it to change calibers and how long does it take?

Costs involved?

The only unusual part is the Mr. Bulletfeeder. As mentioned above you lose the powder check but I think it's a mistake to trust those. You really need to be visually inspecting every powder load as it goes by. The consensus with the high volume USPSA types is definitely just to bag it. The good news is that since you're not getting distracted with a lot of little jobs you can spend all of your mental energy watching the powder level and manipulating the handle smoothly.

Calibers... I hate to change the adjustments or buy a conversion on the bulletfeeder so for me it's just for 9mm which is probably 90% of my total shooting volume right now.

For the press proper, if you search YouTube you can find lots of videos of people changing calibers on the 650. If you buy all the doodads (quick change primer assembly, spare powder drop for every toolhead) it's maybe a 10 minute job. If you don't have all the doodads and you've never done it before allow 30 minutes for the first time.

If you were just making 100 rounds of something it would be faster just to use the turret. The idea is more that you'll be making a thousand rounds or two of a secondary caliber and then put it back. If you're changing calibers a lot you're doing it wrong.