Reloading a Lot

[sh0t1]

So, where I live I can shoot off my back deck... that means I go through A LOT of ammo ( to me ). I think it's time I start re-loading. I would say approx. 2-4k .223 a year, 1k 30-06, 5k 12ga birdshot, 2-4k 9mm, 1k .40, 1k, 45, 500-1k .357. Add in some friends using up my ammo, and it goes REALLY fast.

I want something that can reload 500-800 rnds per-hour, all-in-one kind of thing. The less 'outside assistance' from me the better.

I have been looking at a Dillon 650 any opinions?

I don't need a setup for EVERY caliber I shoot either right now.

Can I get what I want for $1200 or less?

[Fjold]

For $505 you can get a Dillon 650 from Brian Enos for one caliber. Add in another $320 and get four caliber conversions and that would cover all your pistol calibers (one conversion could be for 223, since you shoot a lot of that). Spend the rest on dies, a scale and reloading manuals.

Then you have to buy components

[sh0t1]

If I shoot .223 and 5.56 is the re-loading equipment different for each? I use .223 I get at wal-mart, but also 5.56 I get from the web. FWIW says 5.56 on rifle

Thanks a bunch.

[Captain Evilstomper]

If I shoot .223 and 5.56 is the re-loading equipment different for each? I use .223 I get at wal-mart, but also 5.56 I get from the web. FWIW says 5.56 on rifle

Thanks a bunch.

no the reloading equip. is the same.

[anthonyca]

Where do you live? Sorry just dreaming. I wish I could shoot off my back deck and ride my dirtbike on my property.

[Sunwolf]

Don`t forget the Dillon case gage for 223 so you can check your loads,also trimming all that brass is gonna be a bear so look into a way to automate the process.

[thebloodsonthewall]

Where do you live? Sorry just dreaming. I wish I could shoot off my back deck and ride my dirtbike on my property.

Man don't we all.

Dillon is almost always a good choice. I have the 550b and it is good so I bet the 650 is better. For rifle reloading, there is kind of a lot of prep work but for pistol there is almost no prep work involved. Just make sure to get carbide dies so you don't have to lube the cases.

[jandmtv]

+1 for the Dillon XL650! great press.

[sargenv]

If you are loading 5.56 ammo, you likely will need to de-crimp all that brass at least the first time. You will also likely need something that can do it. If you will be shooting a lot of 5.56 brass and buying it to reload, the 1050 might be a better press despite the added cost otherwise you will need to get a swage tool from Dillon which is really slow going. Though I did do several thousand over the course of about a month.. my wrists were killing me after I finished though.

[sh0t1]

Lot of good info floating around.

Anyone here do what I want? I don't mind all the input but it sounds like a lot have opinions on equipment they have or have heard about but no one actually reloading this volume with the 'automated' equipment I desire. Why is that? Cost? Not worth it?

I`m a total reloading newb, so if you can post a URL/LINK to the product you talk about that'd be apreciated. I don't fully grasp 100% all the items I need to reload.

[Blacktail 8541]

I use a RCBS pro 2000. It is fine for the volume that I load. About 2 to 4 thousand rounds a year of 5.56 and 2 thousand a year of 45 acp.

But it sounds as if you should go with a Dillion 1050 for what you plan if you use a lot of military cases. If not the 650 with a case feeder would be the way to go. I've used a 650 and seen a 1050 in action. Both very sweet machines. The only thing that kept me from going Blue was the fact that I dont load enough to get the bennifit that they offer for the added expence of the conversions.

[sh0t1]

Thanks for that, why is the 1050 better for mil casing than the 650?

[Blacktail 8541]

It has a built in swag station for removeing the military crimp.

[kmca]

Thanks for that, why is the 1050 better for mil casing than the 650?

The 1050 swages the primer pocket in the normal cycle. With the others it's a different operation.

I don't think that your budget is high enough for what you want. The 1050 is around $1500 and an automated MEC is about $900. That's just a start.

[sh0t1]

The 1050 swages the primer pocket in the normal cycle. With the others it's a different operation.

I don't think that your budget is high enough for what you want. The 1050 is around $1500 and an automated MEC is about $900. That's just a start.

Any way to start at the 1500 price point and work up or do you NEED it all ?

I guess what I`m asking is do I Just need the 1050 (come with a lot of stuff?) or do I need the automated MEC for $900?

If someone could list the item name and a link to it on a site for sale for each thing I need for the 650 and the 1050 so I can compare that'd be great? I don't know enough to know what specific add-on I need for each specific item.

A lot to learn