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  • JDay
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 19393

    Marks on brass

    I found this while sorting my brass. Anybody know what made those four lines around the primer pocket?

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    The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)
  • #2
    MarkInFolsom
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 392

    Looks like a primer crimp to me.

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    • #3
      Citadelgrad87
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      • Mar 2007
      • 16897

      The NATO cross in the circle indicates, to me, this is or at some point was ammo with a crimped primer pocket. The part of the primer hole adjacent to those marks is mashed, and in fact is the crimp.
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      • #4
        highpower790
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 3481

        Assuming the rest of ops ammo doesn't have those marks,I say its the bolt face.To the best of my knowledge L.C. doesn't stake there primers.
        Keep it simple!

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        • #5
          JMP
          Internet Warrior
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Feb 2012
          • 17056

          It's a staked primer, which is for similar reasons as the traditional crimping that goes all the way around.

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          • #6
            JDay
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 19393

            I've never seen those 4 lines around the primer pocket before. None of my other Lake City has it. I've sorted through several thousand rounds and that's the only one.
            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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            • #7
              MarkInFolsom
              Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 392

              Looks like LC started the 4-way crimp in 2011

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              • #8
                JDay
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 19393

                I have tons of LC 2013 NATO brass without that.

                And here's another with the same headstamp.



                I found those next to each other on the range.
                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                • #9
                  PatC415
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 979

                  As stated above, just two different types of crimping done on 5.56 NATO brass.
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                  • #10
                    ocabj
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 7924

                    It is the primer crimp. Federal / LC sometimes uses the staked primer method.

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                    • #11
                      JDay
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19393

                      Alright. Just strange that only one of a handfull of 2014 has it.
                      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                      • #12
                        Kablemodem
                        Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 252

                        After going though a 500 round case of 2012 LC .223, I found that about 1 in 10 cases had the staked primer crimp.

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                        • #13
                          J-cat
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2005
                          • 6626

                          I have a gallon of these cases. Understand, ammo is made on several machines, not one machine. Sometimes they need to add a machine or run a backup machine.

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                          • #14
                            Eljay
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4985

                            I ran into a bunch of those a year or two ago. It's kind of inelegant looking but you deal with them just like the more traditional primer crimp.

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