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[David-K]

Can't go wrong with the XTP's. Pricy little buggers though for punching paper and ringing steel.......

You're not alone. I would much rather spend the money on a quality projectile knowing that they will work as they should, EVERY TIME .vs making the mistake of buying something inferior for the sake of a good price and larger quantity, only to be frustrated by the results and feeling like I threw my money away. As a result, I'm getting away from plated stuff and going strictly jacketed or the hard lead Hi-Tek coated bullets.

[kryan]

tagging for results

I loaded up the following I'll keep you guys posted with results
10 rds of each
AOL 1.610
240GR RN
IMR4227
19.4, 19.6, 19.8, 20.0, 20.4, 20.8, 21.2, 21.6, 22.0, 22.4, 22.8

Let us know how they work.

[tikitavi06]

Just started loading for 44 mag and am very interested in Ojallday IMR-4227 loading results. Using Starline brass and winchester LPP i have initially loaded .431 200gr LRNFP Oregon Trails with 23 gr of IMR4227 and 22gr of 2400 shot from 6" barrel S&W and Ruger revolver with cylinder dimension of .430. The IMR4227 "pushes' more than the 2400 and left unburnt powder in the cases. The 2400 was snapper but burned cleaner. No over pressuse signs and no soot on side of cases. Tired the same powders with Nosler 240gr JSP .429 with 20 gr\ IMR4227 and 18.5\ 2400 with similar results. I believe the crimp was ok due to other bullets did not jump crimp. I do not have a chronograph. Initial loading came from backing off of data from several internet sites including mfg website and Lyman 49th.

[Noonanda]

The thing I find odd is my 45acp max load is 5.3 but I've never gone over 4.7gr. So to me it seems to be a light load which gets me to think if it will cycle

4.7 is the exact same load I use for my .45ACP with 230Gr Xtreme plated bullets LOL

[Noonanda]

I have used Bulleseye for .44 Mag, but then went with SR7625. here is my data, use at your own risk:
Pistol: Ruger Super Blackhawk
Caliber / Bullet Size: .44 Mag .429
Bullet Weight :200Gr Type: LFP (Lead Flat Point, Lee Mold)
Powder: Bullseye Charge: 7.0Gr
Primer : CCI LP COAL: 1.543

Average Velocity: 1013.7 FPS
Extreme Spread: 58.4 FPS
Average Deviations: 11.1 FPS
Standard Deviation: 4.38
Distance of Chrony: 12 Feet

[llazyjs]

You're not alone. I would much rather spend the money on a quality projectile knowing that they will work as they should, EVERY TIME .vs making the mistake of buying something inferior for the sake of a good price and larger quantity, only to be frustrated by the results and feeling like I threw my money away. As a result, I'm getting away from plated stuff and going strictly jacketed or the hard lead Hi-Tek coated bullets.

Do you size those Missouri bullets or just load them right out of the box?

[stilly]

LoL. Xtreme plated are FINE for .44 mag...
Heck, have an issue with that? Then maybe PC the plating and make them even harder...

I have had no issues with my Deagle shooting ANY of the loads that I made except my VERY first batch of Blue Dot loads that were so under powdered that it sounded like a .40 firing, but I think it still cycled... Then I added about 2gr more and it sounded WAY better.

I am gonna go test it out tomorrow, so I will make some more BD loads and see how they function. Maybe even make a video.

Then some 24.8gr H-110s will be shot to clear any doubts of .44 mag.

[David-K]

Do you size those Missouri bullets or just load them right out of the box?

Load 'em right out of the box. Just be sure you have an adequate flare/bell of the case in order to avoid shaving off any of the coating.

[stilly]

Just got back from the shooting range and my results were good and bad. The good part is all the rounds cycled perfectly and they were pretty accurate. The bad part is there was a lot of unburned powder and my AOL was to long I was only able to load 4 rounds at a time in my magazine before it started getting jammed. What AOL do you guys normally use?

Well yeah no DUH. EVERYONE knows that AOL uses 56k Modems still and they are so behind the times that it is no wonder they are still in business with such LONG connection times...


You should load to 1.600" OAL for the Deagle. That is really about the longest you can load to, you can maybe go a tad longer, but I say just keep it at 1.600" and you are good.

I must have wrote something down incorrectly with mine though because looking at my load data, When I fired off 14.4gr of BD behind a 240gr pill all of them cycled just fine. They also did NOT sound like a .40

I must have loaded about 12gr or so when I first loaded then because I SWEAR they were weaklings.

I also loaded up Ram Shot Enforcer- 21.5gr and those shot nicely as well. Not too deafening, but all were good stout loads. All were fired from Tula LPP using Extreme 240gr PRN .429 pills...

I have a few flecks on my arm so clearly I had some unburned powder, but I have gotten into the habit of NEVER using magnum primers anymore. Maybe you should try a few LPM if you have not and see if that burns the rest of that powder.

[Fishslayer]

Thanks for the advice everyone. I do have bulleye for 45acp, blue dot that I'll be using on 45acp and 44mag, imr4227 that I'd like to save and use on the 500s&w, and pistol powder for yhr 500s &w. But my goal was to use up all the bullseye first before opening any other jugs but

Stored properly powder doesn't go bad. You'd probably be better off using a powder better suited to the magnum.

I would imagine the wrong burn rate powder might cause cycling issues or maybe be harder on the gun than need be.

[stilly]

Should I change over to the blue dot and see if that gives me less un burned powder compared to the imr4227 cause I don't have magnum primers at the moment?

Blue Dot and 4227 will be about the same. The only difference might be where the shells land.

Enforcer- shells fly to my back and slightly right
H-110- Shells fly up and slightly forward and then RUN like an illegal at the border to get as far way as possible
Blue Dot- Shells fly backwards and to the right about 45 degrees.

Blue Dot leaves flakes on my arm every time I shoot them off.

[stilly]

mag primers might fix it, you can try seating a bit lower too.

Blue dot says min OAL is 1.600 and for 4227 it is 1.585 for lead or plated rounds. This is according to BoLee p. 648.

You can put all kinds of powders in a Deagle and fire it. Today I shot:
PB
Enforcer
H-110
Red Dot

Out of them all the weakest to loudest are this:
PB
Red Dot
Enforcer (very similar to Blue Dot)
Blue Dot (very simlar to Enforcer)
H-110