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  • swift
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 874

    Close call with commercial reloads

    Today my friend and I were shooting a 1911 in 9mm when a round wouldn't chamber. Tried another round, still won't go into battery. (There was ~1/4" gap when the slide tried to close on a new cartridge.).

    Turns out there was a bullet in the barrel. Guess that cartridge had no powder. Glad it prevented a round from chambering.

    Moral: don't use 'no -name' reloads.
    Last edited by swift; 05-03-2015, 6:18 PM.
  • #2
    FLIGHT762
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 3072

    Originally posted by swift
    Moral: don't use 'no -name' reloads.
    The real moral is you and your friend get educated on what a squib load is and the proper way to deal with it. Someone wasn't paying attention. A squib can happen with any ammunition.

    Glad to hear no one or the firearm was hurt.

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    • #3
      roc_my_tims
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1527

      Where did you get these bullets from?

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      • #4
        09cs
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 1704

        Originally posted by FLIGHT762
        The real moral is you and your friend get educated on what a squib load is and the proper way to deal with it. Someone wasn't paying attention. A squib can happen with any ammunition.

        Glad to hear no one or the firearm was hurt.
        Originally posted by roc_my_tims
        Where did you get these bullets from?
        Both of these!
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        • #5
          sofbak
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 2628

          What F762 said. Your gun "talks" to you every time you shoot. Learn to "listen".
          Tire kickers gonna kick,
          Nose pickers gonna pick
          I and others know the real

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          • #6
            Powder_Keg
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2013
            • 2203

            Need more info.

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            • #7
              swift
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 874

              I don't know where he picked up the reloads or the vendor, but I'll ask him.

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              • #8
                ___M|9||___
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 1507

                moral of the story, dont try to find the cheapest ammo to shoot especially in a 1911. like people who drive high end cars and use arco gas lol

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                • #9
                  kalapa
                  Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 359

                  Originally posted by ___M|9||___
                  moral of the story, dont try to find the cheapest ammo to shoot especially in a 1911. like people who drive high end cars and use arco gas lol
                  Arco is actually listed as top tier gas

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                  • #10
                    Grunt81
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2014
                    • 658

                    Originally posted by kalapa
                    Arco is actually listed as top tier gas
                    ^^Lol

                    What's disturbing is that the action cycled after a primer was popped.

                    If the empty case stayed in the chamber, then nothing would happen when the trigger was pulled. Also, there is a significant decrease in recoil when when no bullet leaves the barrel.

                    A lesson learned without a blown up pistol is a good day.

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                    • #11
                      ___M|9||___
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1507

                      You get what you pay for, start reloading you'll produce better ammo and you wouldn't be able to blame anyone else except yourself.

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                      • #12
                        Tom-ADC
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 3614

                        I'm surprised a 1911 cycled with a no powder squib load.
                        US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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                        • #13
                          Sheldon
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2149

                          It would not have cycled the action. The shooter probably thought the round was a dud and hand cycled the action.

                          This is possible with any ammo really and shooters need to know to stop and check the barrel when they pull trigger on a dud as it maybe a squib instead. An experienced shooter may feel or hear the difference, but a less experienced person very likely will not.

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                          • #14
                            09cs
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 1704

                            Originally posted by Tom-ADC
                            I'm surprised a 1911 cycled with a no powder squib load.
                            I thought the same thing
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                            Proceed to training email: 9/13/22
                            Training doc received: 9/28/22
                            Call to pick up: 10/31/22
                            Pick up permit: 11/4/22

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                            • #15
                              stilly
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 10685

                              Originally posted by Sheldon
                              It would not have cycled the action. The shooter probably thought the round was a dud and hand cycled the action.

                              This is possible with any ammo really and shooters need to know to stop and check the barrel when they pull trigger on a dud as it maybe a squib instead. An experienced shooter may feel or hear the difference, but a less experienced person very likely will not.
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                              +1

                              Shooting 5.1gr of 700-x will shoot a pill out of my operator with tight springs, but it will fail to cycle the action and reload a second round. If you have a 1911 with a squib then I doubt it cycled the action and was prolly just a reflex to manually cycle the next round.

                              I had to learn that reflex on my XD40 tactical because it hated any ammo I bought for it. It was like a stuck up American woman who insisted that I buy a ring that was no less than $10k... Finally I dumped it off at my LGS and let someone else have her...

                              But a 1911 cycling on a squib? Oh I MUST see this gun...
                              Last edited by stilly; 05-05-2015, 1:27 AM.
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