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  • #16
    23's Dad
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 502

    Originally posted by pacrat
    Speer and Sierra do the same. Bullet makers published data, only list loads for "their" proprietary bullets. Powder makers published data, only list loads for "their" proprietary powders.

    Lyman makes reloading equipment, they don't give a crap whose components you use. They pimp their equipment.

    Same for the Lee Manual, They pimp Lee reloading products. But they also publish established data from all available bullet and powder makers.

    For the money, Lee is the best all around manual out there.

    JM2c
    I look at it this way:
    The powder manufacturers will tell you what works safely.
    The bullet manufactures will tell you what works WELL with THEIR products.

    That is my rational for finding many listings for bullet shapes and weights in a powder manual that don't even appear in the bullet manual.

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    • #17
      pacrat
      I need a LIFE!!
      • May 2014
      • 10285

      Originally posted by 23's Dad
      I look at it this way:
      The powder manufacturers will tell you what works safely.
      The bullet manufactures will tell you what works WELL with THEIR products.

      That is my rational for finding many listings for bullet shapes and weights in a powder manual that don't even appear in the bullet manual.
      Exactly why I have about a dozen different manuals. From both powder and bullet makers. Plus manuals from reloading equipment companies.

      Too much info can be a bit confusing. Too little info can be downright dangerous.

      JM2c

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      • #18
        Ferrum
        Janitors Mop
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Aug 2011
        • 4431

        Originally posted by SinisterBud
        Lyman has 230gr TMJ 3.8 to 5.3 I'll use that data. It sucks hornady only specifies there bullets.
        This is the information that I initially used... Worked up loads from 4.0 to 5.2g. At almost all grains that I tested, the gun cycled and was pretty accurate. The problem I had, all the loads below 5.0g were incredibly dirty and didn't clear up till I hit 5.0g. My guess is there wasn't enough pressure to seal up the case to the chamber till 5.0g.

        Originally posted by ILVSMOG
        For the Berry's plated 230gr with Bullseye I run 5.0gr for standard practice loads and 5.3gr to simulate my "+p" defense loads. Both run well in all my pistols.
        This is exactly what I do now.

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        • #19
          rm1911
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 4073

          plated bullet manufacturers will recommend you not run plated at over 1200 fps. that's I think what xtreme says. good news is with 45, you never get anywhere near that velocity. any load for 230 fmj will work fine for 230 plated. start 10% under and work up, as with any other load. 5.0 is pretty much the standard charge of bullseye for 45, 200 or 230gr. and bullseye is pretty much THE 45 powder. have fun.
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          • #20
            SinisterBud
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 273

            Thanks to those who helped. That's all I was looking for.
            "Try not to become a man of success but rather try to become a man of value."

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