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  • #16
    elk hunter
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    • Sep 2014
    • 2122

    If it qualifies I have seen video on UTube of glass disks that were loaded into a shotshell and fired into a variety of things. Non conductive glass shot through a computer hard drive. That sort of thing work for ya? or am I out in left field on this one?

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    • #17
      ronson
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      • Apr 2010
      • 103

      Looking through some charts of densities of common materials, looks like glass is a contender at some 3100 kg/m^3

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      • #18
        bigbossman
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        • Dec 2012
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        The Swedes used a wooden bullet for training, in 6.5mm. They even had a special screw-up attachment for the muzzle, which splintered the bullet and diverted the debris off to the side.

        I'm not sure if sinter/ graphite bullets are non conductive, but the US used them for training in WWII. I have some Lake City examples in 30-06.
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        • #19
          AandO
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          • Nov 2014
          • 449

          Is lead Conductive?

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          • #20
            CSACANNONEER
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            There have been several different types of plastic 7.62x51 bullets. Of course, besides plastic, resin and wood, there are also wax bullets, bean bag rounds, rubber bullets, rubber buck shot and slug, etc. I have a few thousand rounds of 5.56 plastic bullet rounds as well.
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            • #21
              CSACANNONEER
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              Originally posted by AandO
              Is lead Conductive?
              Really? Yes, it is very conductive.
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              • #22
                TomReloaded
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                • Nov 2013
                • 1637

                Originally posted by jericho89
                Anything "electromagnetic" would not have any effect on a pure lead bullet. But even worse if a steel core bullet were used the electromagnet would actually pull the bullet into his theoretical vest. Only if the bullet has a specific magnetic charge could you in theory use the opposite magnetic charge to move the bullet. But with the speed of a bullet there would not be enough time to vary the trajectory to make a difference.
                This guy nailed it. Your discussion is about magnetic, not conductive.

                A common lead and copper bullet is not magnetic, but conductive. A huge magnet would do nothing to change to course of travel. So any average bullet would defeat your friends idea.

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                • #23
                  AandO
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                  • Nov 2014
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                  Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                  Really? Yes, it is very conductive.

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                  • #24
                    'ol shooter
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                    • Mar 2011
                    • 4646

                    Originally posted by AandO
                    Is lead Conductive?
                    Batteries are made of it, so I guess that's a good indicator.
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                    • #25
                      Lead Waster
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                      • Sep 2010
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                      How about an arrow with a stone arrowhead? Or similar crossbow bolt? Or a spear?

                      From a gun? How about stone or concrete shot?

                      How about wood that has been soaked in some sort of plastic/epoxy?

                      Someone mentioned glass, that sounds good and heavier/denser than wood.


                      Your friend has obviously read the "Dune" series with their personal forcefields.
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                      • #26
                        sonofeugene
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                        • Oct 2013
                        • 4509

                        Conductive?? To/of what?

                        Obviously your friend needs something that can be attracted or repelled by a magnet. Otherwise his idea is useless. (Well, it's useless anyway, but that's a different issue.) Since most bullets are lead with some sort of copper or brass cladding on the outside, they would not be affected in the slightest by any vest with a magnetic field. The bullet would have to be a magnet itself. And since a magnet has a positive and negative poles, if a vest actually could affect the flight of a magnet bullet, about all it would do, at best, would be to flip it around and the bullet would nicely tumble through the vest and the body behind it.

                        And let's not forget the basic futility of trying to do this. If you were to take a 22 long rifle round, let's say, and replace the bullet with a bullet shaped magnet of some powerful magnetic material and then fire it at an electromagnet as powerful, let's say, as an MRI machine, at best it might change it's course slightly.

                        Your friend needs to read this thread and realize he knows very little about what he needs to know.
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                        • #27
                          reckoner
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 721

                          Does your friend understand that electrical conductivity and magnetism aren't the same thing?

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                          • #28
                            DSMeyer
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                            • Jun 2013
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                            OP, I think your buddy has been LARP'ing X-men's Magneto one too many times
                            We'll just give them the 'ol number 6.

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                            • #29
                              Germz
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                              • Apr 2013
                              • 4691

                              I mean...lead isn't considered conductive. why not just load lead rounds.
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                              • #30
                                pacrat
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                                • May 2014
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                                All metals are conductive. Only ferrous metals are magnetic. A magnetic field can be induced into non ferrous metals with electricity. But the field collapses when the switch is opened.

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