Dillon 650 vs Dillon Super 1050

[GW]

If one owns a 650 is there any strong reason to upgrade to a 1050?

Efficiency? speed?
The built in swager on the 1050 is nice but $700 or so worth of nice?

The 650 is covered by the No BS warranty and conversion kits are significantly cheaper.

So major cool factor aside, is there a good reason to upgrade

I reload maybe 5-7K rounds of various caliber per year.

Discuss.

[drdarrin@sbcglobal.net]

If it were me, I'd stick with the 650. @ 500 rounds an hour, a slightly faster pace than I'm comfortable with, it would take you 10 hours to churn out 5,000 rounds; 14 hours for 7,000. All in one cartridge, of course. A 1050 would reduce that time by maybe 20%? Fourteen hours a year wouldn't be worth the difference in cost to me.

Your time might be worth more to you than mine is to me.

[jericho89]

Unless you are wanting to turn out 10 times what you are already doing just stick with what you own and know. You have a great machine and a great warranty, the 1050 is a professional machine and it may reduce time, but there will be a great cost in money, and learning curve. And as parts start to ware out you will not get free parts shipped to you....But if you do upgrade then you have a lot more money then me and you can sent that 650 my way

[GW]

Well, the upgrade was going to be financed in part by selling the 650 but mostly I am just bored and wondering.
So unless I am going into the reloading business I guess there is no good reason to upgrade.
You guys are right
Thanks for the input.

[AandO]

Shoot, why compromise? You only live once, get three of each.

[DarkSoul]

If you only ever really loaded one caliber, I would say switch to the 1050, but if you are switching to multiple different cal. I would stick with the 650. The cost of a 1050 tool head and conversion kit is almost $300, substantially more than a 650.

Now if you can swing for a machine per caliber, he'll yea, go for it, but again, at only 5-7k rounds a year, not very economical.

[FresnoRob]

My employer has both. He goes through a lot of ammo and did it so he could keep different calibers on each. The 1050 if nice but if you are doing less than 20k rounds a year I woukd say no. The biggest drawback is the 1050 being considered a commercial unit and does not have the life time warranty of the 650.

[klewan]

Amongst the Windex Drinkers; the more blue the better! If you have that kind of money to waste; go for it.

[DarkSoul]

The biggest drawback is the 1050 being considered a commercial unit and does not have the life time warranty of the 650.

This is true, but having one of every press they make, I can attest that the 1050 really doesn't need a warranty, the thing is built like a tank (and about as heavy). The only thing mine has ever loaded is 5.56/.223 , it has a prep head and a load head so I don't have to mess with a conversion kit, just the tool heads which only takes about 5-10 min to switch out.

[oldtrucks]

Given the choice I'd buy a second 650. Set one up for small primers and one for large. Keep a separate tool head to mount a case trimmer in and then get the swager that goes in the primer insert spot and you can process on one and load on the other.

[Dark Mod]

I have both, and i dont feel the 1050 is worth it. Im actually somewhat disappointed with it...

Its VERY complex to change calibers and its not a good replacement for a 650. It works good if left set up in a single caliber that doesnt ever change, for me its .223 so i can put the swager to good work.

[RayB]

I have a bullet fed 1050 with 4 conversions.

If I had to do it over again, I'd get both.....

[Twystd1]

I have a bullet fed 1050 with 4 conversions.

If I had to do it over again, I'd get both.....

I had the same thing. I just sold the 1050 with 5 conversions.

I use my two 650s much more. They are definitely slower. I just have too dam many calibers for a 1050.

-T

[balmo]

I reload maybe 5-7K rounds of various caliber per year.

Discuss.

I was thinking more like 50k/year to justify a 1050. Maybe get another 650 so you have one for pistol, one rifle?

[ar15barrels]

1050's are best when dedicated to a single cartridge.
The built in swager makes it so you don't need t sort your brass to find the crimped ones and fix them before loading.
You can go from the ground to the tumbler to the press without handling every case.

A 650 is better if you want to use it to load different cartridges.