Question About Remi UMC Ammo - 'Nickel' Plated?

[jwest]

On Natchez's site - says this:

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=RT23773&src=exrbSrch

Look at the description - I have shot these before - definitely wasn't nickel plated - has something changed?

[bruce381]

so when you bought them they were brass now nickel ah so what companies can change sepcs, boxes etc as they wish

[fguffey]

Look at the description - I have shot these before - definitely wasn't nickel plated - has something changed?

UMC, Union Metallic Cartridge, then they became Remington. the ammo listed is new, could be anything.

http://www.remington.com/Pages/Our-Company/Company-History.aspx

F. Guffey

[74c5]

Nickle plated brass cases have been around for many years. I have thousands in the garage. Nickle plated steel may be emerging to keep costs down. A nickle strike(0.003 in thick) on steel might be easier than on brass. I'd have to check a book I don't have right now.

[stilly]

Brass is the new nickel...

Deal with it!







Besides, Aint brass better than Nickel since it holds it shape better and does not spring back as much nor get brittle as fast?

DEAL WITH IT!

[JTROKS]

Nickel plated brass is good. They don't oxidize like regular brass. They are also sealed a plus for longer shelf life.

Manufacturers can change components.

[jwest]

So, IOW, none of you have bought this recently.

Thanks.

[Twystd1]

I've had problems with .357 Mag nickel plated brass splitting LONG before standard brass starts going south.

I have had Plated brass crack after 1 reload with a relatively stout load for my .357 lever guns.

I can get between 4 and 5 loads with brass using the exact same loads.

I give the nickel plated brass away to my friends. Me no likey.

-T

[jwest]

Hello Twystd1 - I have had similar experience - I prefer not to use it as well.

[Wrangler John]

As I recall it, cartridge brass was nickel plated to resist corrosion. That green layer of corrosion known as verdigris would develop on copper and brass cased ammunition stored in leather belt loops and cartridge boxes. It could also develop in humid climates or in the presence of acidic packaging materials such as cardboard or paper. Leather gun belts with exposed cartridge loops are ideal for forming verdigris corrosion on unplated brass or copper ammunition cases. Leather is tanned with various acidic chemicals, is porous and can absorb moisture from exposure to weather and sweat. Being worn as an article of clothing also exposes it to body heat, a major factor in accelerating corrosion. A thick build-up of verdigris on brass can result in the cartridges being difficult to remove from the holder, and be difficult to chamber.

On my shelf is a leather cartridge slide containing 12 loops for the .480 Ruger. It has been carrying 12 factory loaded Federal Vital-Shok nickel plated .480 Ruger cartridges loaded with the Barnes 275 grain Expander bullets, and sealed primers. These cartridges have been sitting for about a decade exposed to the leather with no corrosion of the cases evident, and only a small black mark can be found on the all-copper bullets where they made contact with the leather.

In the past, when I loaded my duty belt with .357 Magnum Super Vel ammo in brass cases they would turn green within a few months, which is why I switched to speed loaders. The department I worked for required replacing all ammo after six-months, regardless of brand, to better ensure chambering and reliability.

Nickel plated cases were designed to prevent corrosion in combat ammunition where first firing reliability is crucial, and in ammunition that will be used in severe conditions. Nickel plated brass also remains cleaner and less prone to embed grit when it is reloaded. I have great results with a batch of Remington 7mm Remington Magnum nickel plated cases. Then there are the .45 ACP nickel plated cases that have been reloaded so many times that the nickel is nearly worn through. I have no qualms about using nickel cases.

[Carcassonne]

On Natchez's site - says this:

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=RT23773&src=exrbSrch

Look at the description - I have shot these before - definitely wasn't nickel plated - has something changed?

Natchez made a mistake. They probably copied and pasted the info from another Remington product.

Some of Remington UMC 50 round boxes of 9mm have/had nickel plated brass. I do not know about 40S&W.

Natchez is out of stock on that 250 pack of 40S&W. Sinclair has the same thing in stock for a lot less: $108 -vs- $86. Sinclair is the same company as Brownell's.

http://www.sinclairintl.com/ammunition/handgun-ammo/remington-umc-handgun-ammunition-prod43427.aspx

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