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  • jkcerda
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 9230

    first PC boolits.

    so I decided to cast. thse are NOT mine, a good peep sent me these cast bullets to try out, so I figured I might as well go all in & start powder coating them instead of using lube.
    first try


    before powder coat



    second coat worked like a charm, I need to make them this good on the first coat.


    now I need my dies so I can re-size.
    Last edited by jkcerda; 04-07-2016, 11:39 PM.
  • #2
    Meety Peety
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 3216

    Cool man, they look good. HF PC with the tumble method? How much did running two coats add to the diameter of the bullet?

    Here is my last batch

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    • #3
      stilly
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2009
      • 10685

      Those are not bad at all for first PC. Two coats though eh?

      I had issues trying to do more than 1 coat, but I have changed materials thougha nd I think I about have it down a bit better now.

      Peety, what brand of powder are you using? My primary powder is Tiger Drylac.
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      • #4
        jkcerda
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 9230

        Originally posted by Meety Peety
        Cool man, they look good. HF PC with the tumble method? How much did running two coats add to the diameter of the bullet?

        Here is my last batch

        free powder from our guy where we get our parts PC'ed. not sure of brand.
        I am at .454-.456, I need to re-size them. hoping to figure out how to do them in one coat VS 2

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        • #5
          jkcerda
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 9230



          I need to order some Zombie green



          I need to figure out HOW the ones below are mixed.
          Last edited by jkcerda; 04-30-2015, 11:16 AM.

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          • #6
            Grunt81
            Senior Member
            • May 2014
            • 658

            OP, like Stilly said, you should measure the diameter of the bullets. I've found that more than one coat often makes the bullet so large in diamter, that you'll pretty much have to put it in the scrap lead pile if you try to resize it.

            After 2-3 coats, some of .356 bullets had grown to .380. For those bullets, I decided I would measure them prior to attempting to resize. If I'm putting them through a .356 sizing die, I won't attempt to resize them if the diamter is larger than .362".

            Here's another tip I've learned. If you go to home Depot and spend $8.50 on a can of lacquer thinner (in the paint section), then use it to wash and tumble the bullets in a plastic container, then decant the excess and allow the bullets to dry on a paper towel, the bullets get clean and shiny. Without touching them, put them into your powder coat container. I guarantee you'll get better 1st coat adhesion and won't need to do a second coat.

            A guy on here named Pablo 569 or something also suggested to rotate the container slower and slower like folding a flag. This allows the excess powder to buildup to the point where you need to knock off the excess powder. You can do that by bumping your tweezers or stethoscopes on the side of the container.

            Another thing I'm going to try is to shake the BBs in my container before adding the bullets. I'm hoping that building up some static electricity before adding bullets might also yield better results.

            Overall, your bullets look good, but the real question is can you resize them without damaging them.

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            • #7
              Grunt81
              Senior Member
              • May 2014
              • 658

              By the way, OP, where'd you find that metal screen? I've been looking for one.

              The nonstick foil I bough apparently isn't nonstick.

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              • #8
                Citadelgrad87
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                • Mar 2007
                • 16900

                Can I ask a stupid question? Does the thickness of PC come into play.?

                I know, at least I think I know case bullets are pushed through a sizing die. Does the PC require a smaller projectile, even is only fractionally so?
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                • #9
                  Grunt81
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2014
                  • 658

                  Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                  Can I ask a stupid question? Does the thickness of PC come into play.?

                  I know, at least I think I know case bullets are pushed through a sizing die. Does the PC require a smaller projectile, even is only fractionally so?
                  Tha'ts a valid question.

                  IMO, if the mold is listed as the same size as your sizing die, then with one coat of PC, the bullets should size easily. Any more than one coat, and a sizing die diameter larger than mold diameter should probably be used. Then again, it's a matter of what the barrel slug tells you.

                  Keeping it simple, a .356 mold, one coat of PC, and .356 sizing die, everything is harmonious. Just need that lacquer thinner wash to ensure first coat adhesion and coverage.

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                  • #10
                    jkcerda
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 9230

                    Originally posted by Grunt81
                    By the way, OP, where'd you find that metal screen? I've been looking for one.

                    The nonstick foil I bough apparently isn't nonstick.
                    DOLLAR Store. I unfolded them, they were in the shape of a "U", in the stationary aisle.

                    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                    Can I ask a stupid question? Does the thickness of PC come into play.?

                    I know, at least I think I know case bullets are pushed through a sizing die. Does the PC require a smaller projectile, even is only fractionally so?
                    I size after I powder coat, no problems unless the coat is really thick, I got it down to one coat, the ones pictured measure .460-.462, I size them to .451 with no problems

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                    • #11
                      Fordtrucks
                      Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 410

                      They sell those aluminum grill plates at Walmart so the veggies don't fall through the BBQ. They work great.

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                      • #12
                        stilly
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10685



                        Fixed it for OP...

                        Okay, maybe not... **** me.

                        I asked that guy how he did those bullets and do you know what he told me?

                        NOTHING because he ****ing ignored my e-mail so I think he got them on a jig and hit them with all black, glossy black prolly and half cured it, then from the bottom going towards the top with various colors to give them a directional spray and that was the final coat unless he then hit them with a glossy clear. The middle pill that looks like it has swirls in it has me slighly baffled though.

                        You can make some good looking pills with an ES gun but if you are using an ES gun then you had BETTER make some good looking pills. It is harder to dry tumble and look good but for those of us that can do it, more power to us... just keep practicing.

                        Here is an idea... I was thinking of taking freshly tumbled white pills then rolling them over a patch of powder that is the same length of their circumfrence and seeing if that patch of powder can transfer over the same pattern...

                        When you just sprinkle powder on top, it LOOKS like it was sprinkled. When you roll the bullets through a powder patch, it looks a bit more mixed up.


                        As for Peety, I think those pills are coated with Candy Raspberry from PBTP. Are they?
                        Last edited by stilly; 04-30-2015, 11:16 PM.
                        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                        Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                        And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                        • #13
                          jkcerda
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 9230

                          Originally posted by stilly


                          Fixed it for OP...

                          Okay, maybe not... **** me.

                          I asked that guy how he did those bullets and do you know what he told me?

                          NOTHING because he ****ing ignored my e-mail so I think he got them on a jig and hit them with all black, glossy black prolly and half cured it, then from the bottom going towards the top with various colors to give them a directional spray and that was the final coat unless he then hit them with a glossy clear. The middle pill that looks like it has swirls in it has me slighly baffled though.

                          You can make some good looking pills with an ES gun but if you are using an ES gun then you had BETTER make some good looking pills. It is harder to dry tumble and look good but for those of us that can do it, more power to us... just keep practicing.

                          Here is an idea... I was thinking of taking freshly tumbled white pills then rolling them over a patch of powder that is the same length of their circumfrence and seeing if that patch of powder can transfer over the same pattern...

                          When you just sprinkle powder on top, it LOOKS like it was sprinkled. When you roll the bullets through a powder patch, it looks a bit more mixed up.


                          As for Peety, I think those pills are coated with Candy Raspberry from PBTP. Are they?
                          the pic is not showing up bro.

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                          • #14
                            stilly
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 10685

                            Originally posted by jkcerda
                            the pic is not showing up bro.
                            Yes.

                            Thus the: "Okay, maybe not... **** me."

                            :\
                            7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                            Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                            And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                            • #15
                              jkcerda
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 9230

                              Originally posted by stilly
                              Yes.

                              Thus the: "Okay, maybe not... **** me."

                              :\
                              got it, I can see you also tried by seeing the pic in your sig.

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