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  • stilly
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2009
    • 10685

    So when did the DRIVERS rules change? (stop error D1 RANT here)

    SO about a couple of months ago I loaded up my New G210 card in my main system to replace a dieing ATI Radeon that I had previously installed.

    It fixed the issues and lockups and but it is a slower card. (I knew it was gonna be slow, I just did not think it would be THIS slow).

    I finally decided to load up the drivers for it hoping that it would speed it up a bit (which it did) BUT, durring the process I grabbed the NVIDIA 320.49 DISPLAY drivers (please pay attention to the word DISPLAY). This was about a week or so after installing the new card.

    Durring the LOADING of the drivers I saw that it wanted to load up some HD Audio drivers. But this was for a DISPLAY card, not a SOUND card and my SOUND drivers were FINE. So I told it NO. JUST load the DISPLAY drivers...

    So now all the BS starts. Upon rebooting after loading the drivers, I start getting messages of the system finding new HD Audio devices and it wants to load the drivers... (MOTHER****ER...) What the hell do you NOT understand about DISPLAY ONLY drivers? SO, I figure that I can be more stubborn then the computer if I want to be so I decided to hit CANCEL all 4 times it wanted to install the drivers. I am NOT going to let it install HD drivers for something that I did not add and I had no intention on upgrading drivers because my sound was functioning FINE.

    So I guess Windows XP decided to scheme on how it would prod me in the right direction to load the drivers, and this is what it did.

    Shortly after changing my DNS the other night I left the comp and came back to a BSOD. It listed NO files, but the irql_not_equal_or_greater and it was a STOP D1 error.

    I hit reset.

    Come back shortly and get online, EACH time refusing to install the drivers again, about another hour or so and BSOD while I am online reading stuff.

    So this goes on and I ALMOST posted "how can changing my DNS cause me to start BSOD all of a sudden." But I thought, okay, let's look into what this is about, it WAS a STOP D1 yet again. In fact, ALL stops errors were the same cause, and all were STOP D1 errors.

    SO, I looked it up and found a TGIS.SYS or something file that was the root cause of a lot of these stop errors upon bootup.- EVEN though none of my STOP D1 errors listed any filenames. (just wanted to protect them I guess and remain anonymous).

    I looked into that and found two utilz from MS that will yank the SYS file OUT of your system and make it more stable I guess. I grabbed them both but refrained from using them. I waited, about 3 hours later I come back inside and I am looking at another BSOD so I reboot and cancel the driver installs upon booting up into windows XP again and then I try to run the 32 bit version of the util I downloaded and it tells me it is not a valid 32 bit executable... Same with the 64 bit version.

    I am now pissed.

    SO, I do a little more searching and find that all of these STOP D1 errors are typically hardware or driver related. I am about to run my memtest and then I decide, LET'S stop and see if these damn HD drivers are the issue because I do NOT want to know if my hardware is failing. SO I reboot in safe mode and let the comp idle for about 6 hours, NO BSOD. Then I reboot, go hunt down the EXE file for the driver setup and run it. Now for the past 12 hours NO more BSOD...

    WTFE. This is SUCH a dog and pony show of BS. I mean really, Everything was FINE until you (the computer) were told that I did not want to load up any drivers, so then you have an issue and throw a fit and ***** and moan until you get your way...

    Anyways, moral of the story, I dunno if there is any moral, I am just pissed that I had to give in and load drivers for something that was working FINE but windows had issues and demanded those drivers even though they were in a VIDEO card package and not for my MOBO...

    I swear to GAWD that Linux based VMware is going to get on this hardware sooner then you think...
    Last edited by stilly; 09-29-2013, 1:45 PM.
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    ElvenSoul
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    • Apr 2008
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    Kill it with fire!
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    • #3
      stevemc1979
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      • Oct 2011
      • 128

      Does your 210 have an hdmi output like mine? This may be why it's trying to load audio drivers. Why not disable this cards audio ability in device manager?

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        Kyle1886
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 3760

        I feel for you. I've told my PC a zillion times I DO NOT WANT Internet Explorer 10 (Win 7). Boot up and it loads. Delete it. Boot up, it loads. Repeat.

        I now have IE 10 that's dead dog slow and renders as slow--if it decides to display at all. (Yes, I also use FF, and Chrome...but certain things require I.E)

        NVidia will not update my drivers because it says my password is out of date, yet it won't up date the password, nor let me assign another.

        Good luck---

        Respectfully
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        • #5
          Peter.Steele
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          • Oct 2010
          • 7351

          The reason that it's trying to load audio drivers is because modern video cards are also audio output devices via HDMI, genius. Been this way for a LONG time now.
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          • #6
            blazeaglory
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            • May 2011
            • 6370

            Lol...

            Brevity, brevity.
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            Also, sometimes I type in CAPS to emphasize a POINT. Please dont interpret that as YELLING. Sorry if I HURT any fuzzy little bunny's FEELINGS out there.

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            • #7
              stilly
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2009
              • 10685

              Originally posted by stevemc1979
              Does your 210 have an hdmi output like mine? This may be why it's trying to load audio drivers. Why not disable this cards audio ability in device manager?
              Hdmi is that little connector that looks like a cross between firewire and usb correct? The connector that can carry power/ethernet/sound/video- essentially high definition multimedia interface correct? Don't have that.

              Mine has two outputs.

              One is VGA, the other is I believe DVI. I do not know of any audio at all, it is like a $35 card. Nothing fancy. I was expecting to be given crap for even loading it up. I do not know why there would be an onboard hdmi header either.

              Maybe I am wrong, but I thought that a long time ago once you told windows NO a time or two it would remember that and stop trying to load drivers.

              Now I have 15 things in my Audio section of the device manager. Thank gawd for the irq steering and sharing...
              Last edited by stilly; 09-29-2013, 4:51 PM.
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                stilly
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2009
                • 10685

                Originally posted by Peter.Steele
                The reason that it's trying to load audio drivers is because modern video cards are also audio output devices via HDMI, genius. Been this way for a LONG time now.
                You may have me here.

                Hold on a second, I will be right back with a photo...
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                • #9
                  Clever
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 591

                  Stilly the HDMI drivers are for the HDMI video output. I had the same problem and found out 2 things. That Video card will not work with win2000 and with XP it refuses its own HDMI drivers. I have the drivers that work for the G210 on XP. If you like and if you are local I can let you copy off of my USB Drive. Let me know. I'll look for them.
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                  • #10
                    Peter.Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 7351

                    Originally posted by stilly
                    Hdmi is that little connector that looks like a cross between firewire and usb correct? The connector that can carry power/ethernet/sound/video- essentially high definition multimedia interface correct? Don't have that.

                    Mine has two outputs.

                    One is VGA, the other is I believe DVI. I do not know of any audio at all, it is like a $35 card. Nothing fancy. I was expecting to be given crap for even loading it up. I do not know why there would be an onboard hdmi header either.

                    Maybe I am wrong, but I thought that a long time ago once you told windows NO a time or two it would remember that and stop trying to load drivers.

                    Now I have 15 things in my Audio section of the device manager. Thank gawd for the irq steering and sharing...
                    Originally posted by stilly
                    You may have me here.

                    Hold on a second, I will be right back with a photo...


                    Yes, I do have you here. DVI ports can output audio as well.

                    If you've got a DVI port, then you might as well have HDMI, and the card probably even came with a DVI to HDMI converter thingy. Hell, my video cards are from 2008 and have 2 DVI ports apiece. They came with 2x DVI-HDMI converters and 2x DVI-VGA converters.
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                    • #11
                      SonofWWIIDI
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                      • Nov 2011
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                      I'll just leave this here:

                      Sorry, not sorry.
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                      • #12
                        stilly
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10685

                        Originally posted by Peter.Steele
                        Yes, I do have you here. DVI ports can output audio as well.

                        If you've got a DVI port, then you might as well have HDMI, and the card probably even came with a DVI to HDMI converter thingy. Hell, my video cards are from 2008 and have 2 DVI ports apiece. They came with 2x DVI-HDMI converters and 2x DVI-VGA converters.
                        Well if the DVI can do audio then so be it. Well played sir.

                        My card was a cheap card. HAH! I bet I have you there! My card is cheaper then anything you ever owned.

                        Not that I am bragging or anything, But this card came with NO adapters and I have never seen any cards that have come with vga/dvi to hdmi adapters. I am sure when I purchase an Evga 900 series it might come with an adapter. But these cheap cards that I keep on hand for backups are only supposed to be temp cards and not very expensive. I NEVER knew that DVI cards did audio. I have not noticed that as a selling point on any of the cards that I purchase. Of course most of the time the cards that I purchase I try to get with VGA outputs so maybe that is why.

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                        • #13
                          Peter.Steele
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                          • Oct 2010
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                          One on top is DVI-HDMI, one on bottom is DVI-VGA.
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                          • #14
                            stilly
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 10685

                            I never had a monitor that had DVI in so I never needed to use DVI PERIOD. Therefore I have never known that it can do audio.

                            Do you REALLY get audio out of that though or is it just IN CASE they decide to do it? Hmmm. This will have grave ripple effects on my future purchases now...

                            Forget my photo. I do not see a need to yank out the card and show there is no HDMI on it when there is a DVI on it. LoL. Learn something new every day...

                            Man, I aint had a revelation like this since that day I found out they had small and large pistol primers in .45 acp shells...

                            This whole world is going to hell...

                            What is next? A ****ing native exchange server built into networking cards?
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                              Peter.Steele
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                              • Oct 2010
                              • 7351

                              Originally posted by stilly
                              I never had a monitor that had DVI in so I never needed to use DVI PERIOD. Therefore I have never known that it can do audio.

                              Do you REALLY get audio out of that though or is it just IN CASE they decide to do it? Hmmm. This will have grave ripple effects on my future purchases now...

                              Forget my photo. I do not see a need to yank out the card and show there is no HDMI on it when there is a DVI on it. LoL. Learn something new every day...

                              Man, I aint had a revelation like this since that day I found out they had small and large pistol primers in .45 acp shells...

                              This whole world is going to hell...

                              What is next? A ****ing native exchange server built into networking cards?


                              You use something like this primarily when you're using an HDTV for a monitor. Works great when you want to play games in 1080p on the 62" in the living room.

                              That said, the DVI cable in the above picture is going to my primary monitor, which is a 22" Acer and has VGA / DVI / HDMI inputs.

                              Anyway, yeah, let your computer install whatever drivers it thinks it needs. Chances are good it knows why it wants to install them.
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