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  • Mssr. Eleganté
    Blue Blaze Irregular
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10401

    Have to move from regular DSL to U-Verse

    So AT&T finally started offering U-Verse in our neighborhood. At first I was planning to switch over from regular AT&T ADLS to U-Verse for the increased speed, but then as all my neighbors started switching to U-Verse our ADSL speed started going up. It's now twice as fast as it was a couple of months ago. Sweet! I figure we'll stick with ADSL. 2.5 Mbps is fine and we won''t have to buy the new U-Verse gateway and deal with setting up our home network again.

    BZZZT!!! WRONG!!!

    AT&T now says they are shutting down the old ADSL network and we have to switch to U-Verse. But they will double our speed, not charge us for the new modem and will keep our monthly charges the same. Okay, not so bad.

    BUT THEN!!!

    UPS just dropped off the new modem. It's a 2WIRE 3600HGV. This thing is HUGE. It's over 10 time bigger than our current ADSL modem. I hope it doesn't sound like a vacuum cleaner when plugged in. And it looks like there is no way to put this thing into true "bridge" mode. Apparently there's an almost bridge mode that people online say can be set up to work with our Apple Airport. Hopefully the setup won't be too complicated. But there is no way to use a smaller 3rd party modem with U-Verse. You have to use the AT&T supplied device.

    I've got about 15 web pages open on my browser right now, each one with different set up suggestions and trouble shooting guides. I need to leave the pages open because until I get the new modem set up we won't have internet service.
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  • #2
    NoSpam
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 711

    Solution: http://forums.att.com/t5/Residential...p/td-p/2707013

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    • #3
      cfm117
      Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 487

      Yea, the ATM network and the routers and Redbacks were/are tapped out. Uverse IP network does not use PPPoE for authenification so there is no user/password to plug into router for bridge mode. You can still use a 3rd party router by putting it in DHCP mode and just let the 2 Wire assign it an IP and you can disable DHCP server if you want to or you might have IP conflicts as you can not have two DHCP servers. Thats how i got mine with an E1000 Cisco.


      "Every gun makes it's own tune." - Blondie

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      • #4
        Mssr. Eleganté
        Blue Blaze Irregular
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 10401

        Originally posted by NoSpam
        Yep, that was one of the 15 pages I had open on my computer. The 2WIRE could only be configured over ethernet, so I ended up having to take a picture of my computer screen upstairs with my girlfriend's iPad so I could more easily follow the 14 part instructions down in the basement with the modem.

        We're getting just over 7.0 Mbps right now with the U-verse. For the past year our "up to 3.0 Mbps" DSL plan was doing about 1.5 Mbps until it rose to 2.5 Mbps last month.

        Weird thing is, web pages seem to take more time to begin loading now, but once they start loading they load way faster. It's as if it takes longer to find web pages.
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        • #5
          NoSpam
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 711

          They might be using different DNS addresses for u-verse vs dsl. Check your router settings to see if you have DNS set for DHCP or if it's static.

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          • #6
            Darryl Licht
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Dec 2012
            • 2259

            No cable internet in your area? Cable is faster!
            "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
            --Thomas Jefferson
            Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. --Groucho Marx

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            • #7
              diveRN
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1743

              Just made the switch to Uverse from 6mbit DSL today. Pages don't noticeably load any faster, but download speeds from my box in Houston are almost 4 times quicker ... for $20 less a month. The agg router and its large fiber trunk are about 1/4 mile from the place we just moved into.

              Not wild about the new router though. They took a lot of the config utilities away from the end user.

              Cable in this area, while faster at times, is crap overall.

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              • #8
                cfm117
                Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 487

                The reason they took away some config features is because that gateway is a multi-use device. It is also used to receive video from the VHO and Voip. If you start coding new DNS servers it wouldnt function for the other things its used for. FYI Uverse platform is all Interleave vs Fastpath for Adsl. You wouldnt notice it unless you compare ping rates, which uverse may ping a few MS slower


                "Every gun makes it's own tune." - Blondie

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                • #9
                  Gavelek
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1275

                  U verse sucks, since they forced me to switch I have only problems and technicians are coming twice a month, I told them one more connection problem and I'm switching out...but what is the other option?

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                  • #10
                    Mssr. Eleganté
                    Blue Blaze Irregular
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 10401

                    Originally posted by Darryl Licht
                    No cable internet in your area? Cable is faster!
                    I really wanted to go with cable, but they need to dig a trench trough my front yard to put in the cable and they can only give me a two week window for when the digging crew might show up. I don't want them cutting through my lawn sprinklers or natural gas pipe.


                    Originally posted by cfm117
                    ...FYI Uverse platform is all Interleave vs Fastpath for Adsl. You wouldnt notice it unless you compare ping rates, which uverse may ping a few MS slower
                    The ping rates are twice as slow (used to be 23 now is 50), but the download speed is three times faster. Don't really know what that means though.
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                    • #11
                      cfm117
                      Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 487

                      I really wanted to go with cable, but they need to dig a trench trough my front yard to put in the cable and they can only give me a two week window for when the digging crew might show up. I don't want them cutting through my lawn sprinklers or natural gas pipe.




                      The ping rates are twice as slow (used to be 23 now is 50), but the download speed is three times faster. Don't really know what that means though.
                      It basically is an error correcting function that takes place before first router hop.


                      "Every gun makes it's own tune." - Blondie

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                      • #12
                        Fizz
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1473

                        U-verse, ATT's attempt to leverage old copper while staying away from dirty sounding things like 'DSL.' It's really all DSL technology. Watching U-verse TV slows your internet (But they do allot some buffer for this).

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                        • #13
                          den888
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 10520

                          I was an AT&T DSL customer from 2004-2008. In 2008, they introduced U Verse in our area and I switched. Been pretty happy with the reliability of the service, as I work from home some days and need reliable internet service.

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                          • #14
                            diveRN
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1743

                            So far I'm happy with Uverse speeds and connectivity, but man o' man... getting mail to work properly has been an issue.

                            I don't use ATT for mail, I POP or IMAP mail from my own box. ATT doesn't like it when you have offsite mail.

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                            • #15
                              Darryl Licht
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 2259

                              Everyone I know who has AT&T is not happy with it. If it is the only option for an ISP, then that's it. Most areas have cable as an option, which is in nearly every case I've experienced faster and more reliable!

                              I'm a g33k and I have cable, and yes I live in an AT&T area! My Cable is faster and less expensive!
                              "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
                              --Thomas Jefferson
                              Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. --Groucho Marx

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