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  • #16
    stilly
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2009
    • 10685

    Originally posted by BigStiCK
    I've had the same imac for 7 years and have yet to have a problem. Macbook pro for 5, no probs. Ipad & Iphone that my 3 & 5 year old boys play with (and drop) frequently. All still working great.

    Our windblows based pc's at work crash multiple times a day, like clockwork. I was a network admin for 5 years in the Air Guard. I will NEVER own or work on another windblows based pc or network EVER again.

    Sorry for your troubles, but they're built in, dude.

    But we have cooler games and they are not star trek based...

    If OP is still having issues then you should take out the mobo and set it on the box, plug in the PSU and a monitor with only the RAM/CPU/MOBO plugged into the PSU. Remove the HD, OD, and anything else. Leave only 1 stick of RAM in it.

    See if it turns on If it does let it idle in the BIOS and see if you can observe the temps. If your cpu goes like early 50s just sitting there it is prolly the over heating issue. Put a decent amount of thermal paste (decent = not too little or too much, like about a long grain of rice) and reinstall the cpu cooler. Then see if that changes anything. While you are at it you might want to have a closer look at your voltage. In the past with 2 motherboards I found that the AUTO voltage was too high and I had to drop the cpu voltage by a notch or two to get the temperature down.

    Nothing is perfect, that goes for people, electronics and machined parts...
    Last edited by stilly; 08-25-2013, 2:04 PM.
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    • #17
      Al Norris
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 386

      The symptoms that you describe could be related to the heatsink/cooling solution you have chosen, so definitely clean and repaste the block - If only to eliminate this as the problem.

      I suspect it actually to be your PSU. Despite some (many) of the reviews of this unit on newegg, the symptoms suggest that the PSU is the culprit (and many of the reviews back this up).

      My own experience with XFX (as a company) gives me indigestion. And that is only dealing with 2 of their video cards and lack of response to general emails (I also now note that they have a specific email addy for newegg customers - something the other manufacturers do not have - hmmmmm) at their website!
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      • #18
        pluke the 2
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 1926

        Macs are for guys who dont get laid

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        • #19
          nanoc
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 569

          +1 on the heatsink/cooling as the issue, CPU shutting down automatically usually to protect itself from overheating. I would recheck if everything is properly mounted.

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          • #20
            cid`
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 180

            Originally posted by pluke the 2
            Macs are for guys who dont get laid
            they get laid plenty!! they just happen to have their finger break through the paper every time they #2..

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            • #21
              NoSpam
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 711

              Is it shutting down before or after you see Windows trying to load? If it's after, it might just be the drivers you had issues with. I recommend you boot into safe mode and see if it stops restarting on it's own. If it's fine in safe mode, I'd start by uninstalling the drivers you had issues with the night before.

              Windows is set by default to reboot on system failure. If you don't go into startup and recovery properties to disable that feature, your PC reboots without showing you the error. Bad chipset drivers or video card drivers are usually the culprit here.

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              • #22
                NoSpam
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 711

                I took a quick peek at the Asus z87 pro specs. Looks like it comes with onboard video. For troubleshooting purposes, I'd recommend you pull out your Gigabyte GTX card and reboot.
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                • #23
                  sbrad39
                  Banned
                  • May 2013
                  • 925

                  whenever I've had that problem in the past...it was always a bad motherboard...I've built quite a few....

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                  • #24
                    the86d
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 9587

                    Originally posted by pluke the 2
                    Macs are for guys who dont get laid
                    Most of them get plenty, the problem is that they spread hippie-diseases (VD).
                    Most don't know anything about what they are working on, hardware, or the tech behind it, they are too busy getting high to learn...
                    Last edited by the86d; 09-17-2013, 6:07 AM.

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                    • #25
                      DaveInOroValley
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 8967

                      Originally posted by pluke the 2
                      Macs are for guys who dont get laid
                      Actually they give them more time to get laid since they don't have to constantly fiddle around with other hardware only the one piece that matters.
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                      • #26
                        Darryl Licht
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 2259

                        Why does the Apple crowd always jump on PC users with issues? Apple isn't the cure, he just built a new PC. Apple isn't infallible either! The old myth that Apples don't get a virus is simply because of the numbers; Apple still accounts for less that 10% of OS installs worldwide! So if your gonna write a virus you got for the OS with a large installed base. There are more and more virii that specifically attack iOS everyday.

                        ...And there are many of us who have built and/or bought reliable windows based PC's! Mine has run 24/7 since 2008 as a media server. I reboot it about once a week just to clear out memory, etc.

                        OP - As most have suggested, check and double check all connections. Pay careful attention to all the small psychedelic spaghetti wires going from case to mobo... You don't have any leaks in that cooling system do you? I am also assuming this isn't your first build?

                        Also it may be a bad PSU since you saw all fans spin down. Wouldn't bee the first time I saw a bad "new" item!
                        "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
                        --Thomas Jefferson
                        Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. --Groucho Marx

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                        • #27
                          NytWolf
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 3935

                          Originally posted by incredablehefey
                          Well i finally spent the money on new computer components and built a new one. I fired it up on friday night and everything seemed to be working well. I went through and started installing drivers for my video card and mobo and had a few problems with the mobo drivers so i said i will worry about them later and shutdown and went to bed. Well i get home from a long day at the fair today to see my case fans running but spinning down to a stop. I thought that was weird so i tried to fire the computer up and now it turns itself on and off without any input from me, sometimes it will stay running for a few minutes other times only seconds. I went and reseated the connectors on the mobo, drives and video card but the same problem exists. I dont know what the next plan of action is aside from sending the psu and mobo back for replacements would be. I will list the components and see if the calguns tec support can help me fix it.

                          mobo- Asus z87 pro

                          cpu- i7 4770k

                          cpu cooler- Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer

                          memory- Patriot Viper 3 16GB- 2 x 8GB, PC3-15000, 1866MHz,

                          psu- XFX Pro Series XXX Edition ATX Power Supply - 850W,

                          video card- Gigabyte GTX 770 GDDR5-4GB OC WINDFORCE 3X

                          os- Windows 8 64 system builder

                          hdd- Samsung 840 Series (SSD) 250 GB Sata

                          and please no "should have bought a Dell or other pre-made computer" comments
                          Originally posted by incredablehefey
                          well its up and running today.. for whatever reason i cant seem to get the bios to set the memory to 1866... im bummed about that but it seems stable now.
                          Check the part number of your Patriot memory for actual specs. From what I gather, the Patriot memory is rated at 1600MHz stock. Higher speeds are considered overclocking and will require you tweak the latencies and voltage.

                          As far as stability in Windows, how long does it stay operational in the BIOS screen if you leave it there? If you increase the memory speed, reboot to take affect the new memory speed, and it locks up after reboot, then the memory settings aren't workable.

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                          • #28
                            the86d
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 9587

                            Originally posted by Darryl Licht
                            Why does the Apple crowd always jump on PC users with issues? Apple isn't the cure, he just built a new PC. Apple isn't infallible either! The old myth that Apples don't get a virus is simply because of the numbers; Apple still accounts for less that 10% of OS installs worldwide! So if your gonna write a virus you got for the OS with a large installed base. There are more and more virii that specifically attack iOS everyday...
                            Install Linux, and have less malware/virus issues than Mac users... If you need windows, run it in a FREE VM manager.

                            People need to stop doing stupid thing on their PCs, like click "sure" every-time something wants to install, especially while using IE on untrusted pr0n web sites (are there trusted ones?). How about do what you are supposed to do and NOT use a Windows Admin account for watching said pr0n, paroozing warez sites, or looking up lyrics?
                            Last edited by the86d; 09-17-2013, 2:01 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Darryl Licht
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 2259

                              Originally posted by the86d
                              Install Linux, and have less malware/virus issues than Mac users... If you need windows, run it in a FREE VM manager.

                              People need to stop doing stupid thing on their PCs, like click "sure" every-time something wants to install, especially while using IE on untrusted pr0n web sites (are there trusted ones?). How about do what you are supposed to do and NOT use a Windows Admin account for watching said pr0n, paroozing warez sites, or looking up lyrics?
                              Why take a brand new home built windows machine and load Linux??? Why even bother to post if you don't address OP's issue or Q?

                              WHY??? Cuz YOU like Linux? Maybe he's a gamer... no GOOD games for ANY distr0 of Linux! Unless poker or solitaire is your idea of a good PC game.
                              "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
                              --Thomas Jefferson
                              Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. --Groucho Marx

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                              • #30
                                black_pacer_56
                                Member
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 119

                                #@$! Cr-Apple Lovers , there stuff has problems too and hardware operation system limitations!

                                To fix you problem: hear is the solution.

                                1. Power on you Computer and go into the bios to the temp sensors for 10-20 minutes. If your temps on the CPU is between 25C-50C the heatsink is installed correctly, however if your CPU temp is higher that 60C them your CPU heatsink is not is installed correctly. Also verified that there is no heatsink (grease or silver) compound on the gold contacts of the CPU. Make sure the CPU fan the is plugged into the CPU fan header or this with cause you computer to turn-off because the bios is not reading the (900-2100 RPM) from the CPU fan sensor!

                                (You Are Watered Cooled)
                                2. If the computer turns itself off while in the BIOS, them physical hold you hand over the heatsink and make sure that you don't feel heat coming off the CPU heatsink, the CPU fan is spending down, the heatsink should be cool to the touch, and the water block wire connector sensor should be attached the to CPU fan header.

                                3. You have a GPU and Onboard Video, go into the BIOS ( Either F1 Key, F2 Key, Del Key) and disabled the onboard video for your the motherboard and save the changes the BIOS and exit. This will cause your computer to restart itself because it trying to run to graphics drivers and the onboard video at the same time. Boot into the Windows and run the Intel Chipset drivers from the motherboard vendor CD (ASUS) first and restart/reboot your computer. After the Computer is done from rebooting, run the (Gigabyte's) CD install video drivers for the GPU that the vendor supplied.

                                If you have more questions, Please PM please!

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