2013 MacBook pro?

[bigbearbear]

I'd probably just go get an ASUS G series and be done with it

Or a nice Sony VAIO. They look pretty.

[Germz]

As both an avid PC and Mac user, you couldn't be further from the truth.

As a certified IT professional I have my reasons which justify my opinion (which in the end is just an opinion ) and disagreement.

[tonyxcom]

And you think I don't work in IT? You know how many virus's and spyware I have cleaned off Windows and how many I have cleaned off of Mac's?

And since you brought it up..
"Mac's business model revolves around simplicity for the end user, which makes you bend to their ToS and proprietaries."

I think the only argument you could make here is that OSX can only be installed on Apple hardware - per the TOS. But as an IT professional myself I know damned well how many times we violate MS's TOS so don't even go there.

And there is nothing proprietary about OS X. iOS, sure. But OS X you are flat out wrong. And thats based off fact, not opinion

[heedless619]

Thanks guys!! I'll probably wait to see if the new Mac comes out this year!!

[the86d]

I switched to Apple a couple of years back & would never go back. If for no other reason than the lack of viruses on mac. I have a Mac Pro & my GF has a Mac Air. My Pro is 2 or 3 years old & so I'm getting a new one soon. I like her Air better than my Pro, but that's just me.... Oh, I voted "wait for the new Pro" because of the choices offered that's what I'd do... Bill

Linux is more virus-free than even Macs:

[tonyxcom]

Linux is also more application free.

It might be a superior operating system but applications flat out suck.

[TurboLT]

[tonyxcom]

I am waiting to see if they put 16gb of ram in the next 13" retina. Otherwise I'll stick with my late 2012 Air.

[the86d]

"Linux is free if you don't value your time."

...

Some people "buy-in" to the Apple hype, indeed. I never have liked BSD.

Android sales and activations exceed iPhruity devices daily, and your router probably runs Linux (unless you bought-in to one of Apple's routers), oh yeah, AND Roku's run Linux.

[tonyxcom]

This website probably runs on Linux too. Nobody is saying that Linux doesn't have its place. What we are saying is that for A LOT of the population, Linux just doesn't meet our needs on the DESKTOP.

I am past the point of tinkering with my computers or disabling services or recompiling kernels, testing distros or window managers or any other ballywho you leet linux guys do on a daily...

I just need my operating system to manage my files and launch my applications. I have no interest in using Gimp when I can use Photoshop, I have no interest in using Open Office when I can use MS Office 2007/10/13 etc etc.

I would rather use superior applications and inferior operating systems than use a superior operating system and inferior applications.

[RUSSIAN]

I bought a refurbed 13'' retina in may, late 2012 build. The thing is indistinguishable from new. I personally won't hesitate to buy refurbished Apple computers and Canon cameras.

[the86d]

This website probably runs on Linux too. Nobody is saying that Linux doesn't have its place. What we are saying is that for A LOT of the population, Linux just doesn't meet our needs on the DESKTOP.

I am past the point of tinkering with my computers or disabling services or recompiling kernels, testing distros or window managers or any other ballywho you leet linux guys do on a daily...

I just need my operating system to manage my files and launch my applications. I have no interest in using Gimp when I can use Photoshop, I have no interest in using Open Office when I can use MS Office 2007/10/13 etc etc.

I would rather use superior applications and inferior operating systems than use a superior operating system and inferior applications.

Can you tab between text-entry fields/web pages on a Mac yet?

[ocabj]

Can you tab between text-entry fields/web pages on a Mac yet?

?

Since when could you not?

[the86d]

?

Since when could you not?

Since I read a Mac user talk about one of the drawbacks to Macs, coming from Windows?

https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=cannot+use+tab+to+get+to+next+field+mac

[ocabj]

But that article states that you can.

And note, he's talking about tabbing through every element in a web page, not just an HTML <form>.