HD security vid recorder?

[Dubious_Beans]

I need to buy and setup at least 2 HIGH resolution security cams. 720 line resolution might be acceptable, but 1080 would be better.

Can someone recommend a recorder that will record at least 2 channels (or 4) of HD video at a minimum of 7FPS per channel (15FPS or more would be preferable.)
For some reason my searching comes up with lots of HD security cameras, but not a lot of DVR's that actually record HD vid at a reasonable frame rate.

Anyone out there got any experience with HD security vid equipment?

Thanks!

[Markinsac]

I'm not aware of any DVR systems that will handle that resolution. You'll probably need a small computer with software for that. Axis cameras are in use by several people on this forum - they have models that will record the resolution you need. You can also set some of them up to only record when there is motion in the area of interest.

[meaty-btz]

small computer.... no one hell of a computer, and camera: that is gigs of data a minute at 1080p. video comes in uncompressed, h965 compression is a post process encoding.Going to need horsepower to make that happen. costs? thousands onthousands

[Sheepdog1968]

Up where I live, the big cable provider (or phone company) is pushing an web based camera system plus other cool alarm features. Might be high def video.

[ExtremeX]

For those resolutions and type of setup you really want an NVR or PC based setups.

Don’t skimp on the camera… I don’t care what the advertised resolutions are… if the cameras, image sensors, and lenses are crap, you will have a 1080P worth of blurry pixels with terrible low light peformance.

There is way more to quality video images than just what it says on the box. I have IP Cameras that cost $100 each and some that cost $800-900 each, both record at the same resolution, and the difference is night and day.

This is a really good brand, with excellent backend software and awesome cameras.

http://www.mobotix.com/eng_US/content/view/full/2

[Dubious_Beans]

http://www.mobotix.com/eng_US/content/view/full/2

Thanks ExtremeX, that was helpful.
I was hoping to get away with spending $1K or less for a single HD camera and a recorder that can handle at least 2 or more cams, but it seems that probably ain't gonna be enough money. I'll have to discuss it with management (wife) some more...

What are you using to record your cams? PC based system or dedicated NVR?
Can you tell me anything else about your setup?


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[Dubious_Beans]

Up where I live, the big cable provider (or phone company) is pushing an web based camera system plus other cool alarm features. Might be high def video.

I'm afraid that won't be happening here anytime soon.
Ain't no cable provider here. Hell, some of our neighbors don't even have electricity yet!

[ExtremeX]

What are you using to record your cams? PC based system or dedicated NVR?

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I have used various types of system based on my needs and applications.

PC Based NVR - I buy or build my own server and install software which is usually included with the cameras from the manufacture.

Either From Mobotix (linked above)

Ubiquity – Budget but still nice. You should look into this one.

http://www.ubnt.com/airvision#airCamSoftware

Standalone NVR - Lots of brands to choose from. QNAP is one I like. Check out this video to see what type of features one can expect.

http://www.qnapsecurity.com/App_Video04.asp

http://www.icrealtime.com/solutions/pdshowg.asp?pdid=NVR700N

I am into IP cameras; I don’t mess with analog / BNC cameras and DVR units anymore. If I have to deal with analog cameras I usually buy an adapter to convert it into IP and feed it into an NVR.

Can you tell me anything else about your setup?

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For me it’s all about the software... It’s pretty much the heart of the entire operation and provides the features that makes or breaks the setup… Adding nice cameras is just icing on the cake.

I won’t buy something without motion record, analytics, event monitoring, alerting system, and other features that I feel are required. I’m not going to sit there and watch a screen all day or review recordings. I only want to record events.

Basic analytics can be simple hot/cold zones. If I am monitoring my driveway, I don’t want the system to record every time the wind blows the tree in the cameras picture. I would draw a grid in that frame making it a cold zone so prevent false alerts and recording.

Event Summery and Reporting – A splash page to give the user an idea of all recordings or motion events.

More advanced systems can do license plate recognition and things like that. The entire system is only as powerful as the software that drives it. So keep that in mind.

[Yugo]

look into NVR's if your anywhere near the san fernando valley PM me I install these for a living and can get you a great deal on the equipment.

[ExtremeX]

OP... just curious, whats the application? Home Security?

Buy a camera from Ubiquity and try it out. I got the 3 pack just to test out. They cost around $100 per camera and the software on the website is free. Also includes most of those must have features.

If you have a spare Windows PC sitting around you can install the software and test it all out.

For the money its pretty hard to beat.

PM me if you need some recommendation on places to buy them from.

[Rivers]

I use my Mac tower (2009 model) as both DVR for 6 Axis 1080p (3346VE) cameras, all static IP, with SecuritySpy software. I can access my camera views from a remote computer, my iPhone or iPad, etc. Manage the cameras (settings, focus, etc.) using Win 7 (Parallels) on my Mac. Rock solid solution. I still use the tower as my daily workstation for Photoshop and all desktop publishing projects, not lightweight software but the Mac handles the video recording AND daily workload without any hickups. I might restart the Mac once every month or two. No crashes.

[ExtremeX]

You should really use a dedicated system for the NVR.

[Dubious_Beans]

Application? Monitoring a gate and a chunk of road.
It's an easement through our property and we're having problems with people leaving our gate unlocked.
I need to be able to positively identify people & license plate numbers so we can raise hell with the appropriate people.

It's currently monitored by an analog camera(s) and DVR, but it needs better detail.
The camera is mounted about 150' from the area of interest so needs a fairly long lens to do it's thing and it also needs to see well at night.
The camera location is about 400' (cable length) from the house, with an underground run of cat5e & RG6-U to the camera.

I don't have a spare PC laying around so I'll either have to buy one or get a dedicated NVR.
Power consumption on the recording device is also of some concern. When the power goes out (all to often) it will need to run on battery backup.

I'm not too concerned about motion detection. I usually know approximately when a problem has occurred, I just need to go back and ID the culprit.
Motion detection doesn't work for beans anyway at that location because the bats are constantly flying in front of the camera...

I will do a little more research and probably have questions soon.

Thanks!

[ibanezfoo]

We used a cheap Logitech Wilife camera to catch some people vandalizing our vehicles at work. They are HD.

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/webcam-communications/video-security-systems/master-systems

[Dubious_Beans]

look into NVR's if your anywhere near the san fernando valley PM me I install these for a living and can get you a great deal on the equipment.

I'm in Sonoma County so I'm a bit distant from you, but I appreciate the offer!
Thanks!