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  • #31
    yellowsulphur
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1631

    I've been off and on with Linux since Slackware 3.0. Lately I've been happy with Fedora and started to like Gnome 3. Fedora is easy and it's come a long way since Fedora Core 1.0

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    • #32
      blakdawg
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1503

      I've been running some flavor of Unix at home since 1993 - at work I'm still using Windows XP because there are a couple of apps that are Windows-only. I started with Slackware on floppies, moved to FreeBSD and OpenBSD in the late 90's thru the mid 2000's, but lately have been sucked into the ease of use of Ubuntu LTS. I don't like the whole window-manager-flavor-of-the-week thing, so I've mostly stuck to the text-only server installs, still have a couple of machines on 10.04 but have started experimenting with 12.04.
      "[T]he liberties of the American people [are] dependent upon the ballot-box, the jury-box, and the cartridge-box . . without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country." -- Frederick Douglass (1892)

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      • #33
        Merc1138
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19742

        Originally posted by blakdawg
        I've been running some flavor of Unix at home since 1993 - at work I'm still using Windows XP because there are a couple of apps that are Windows-only. I started with Slackware on floppies, moved to FreeBSD and OpenBSD in the late 90's thru the mid 2000's, but lately have been sucked into the ease of use of Ubuntu LTS. I don't like the whole window-manager-flavor-of-the-week thing, so I've mostly stuck to the text-only server installs, still have a couple of machines on 10.04 but have started experimenting with 12.04.
        LOL @ the window manager flavor of the week thing. It's so true too. You see people running linux that seem to spend 1/4 of their time on the computer messing around with the GUI. I use linux/unix all the time at work, via terminal. As far as home use, because I don't feel like having multiple computers at my desk(and I got tired of playing around with bootloaders for multiple OS' long ago), I run windows.

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        • #34
          NSR500
          Banned
          • Aug 2006
          • 19530

          Originally posted by blakdawg
          I've been running some flavor of Unix at home since 1993 - at work I'm still using Windows XP because there are a couple of apps that are Windows-only. I started with Slackware on floppies, moved to FreeBSD and OpenBSD in the late 90's thru the mid 2000's, but lately have been sucked into the ease of use of Ubuntu LTS. I don't like the whole window-manager-flavor-of-the-week thing, so I've mostly stuck to the text-only server installs, still have a couple of machines on 10.04 but have started experimenting with 12.04.
          Yes... Unity pisses me off.

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          • #35
            odysseus
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2005
            • 10407

            Originally posted by NSR500
            Yes... Unity pisses me off.
            Unity sucks. I like Mint. However really win7 is good stuff for most desktop purposes.
            "Just leave me alone, I know what to do." - Kimi Raikkonen

            The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.' and that `Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty.'
            - John Adams

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            • #36
              NissanPreRunner
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 448

              Originally posted by sharxbyte
              If I didn't game, I'd probably be exclusively Linux right now.
              ^ x2 I would love to run Linux full-time but games keep anchored to Windows

              I do have my Mom's computer running Linux but she hates it and now consequently the rest of my family does too. So much for my little experiment

              Originally posted by thomascrowe
              Mint for me, I got everyone at work to convert to it.

              Only use Windows for games...that's it.
              Hmmm... I may have to try this so called Mint that you use.
              Last edited by NissanPreRunner; 06-07-2012, 2:18 AM.

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              • #37
                NSR500
                Banned
                • Aug 2006
                • 19530

                Originally posted by NissanPreRunner
                ^ x2 I would love to run Linux full-time but games keep anchored to Windows

                I do have my Mom's computer running Linux but she hates it and now consequently the rest of my family does too. So much for my little experiment



                Hmmm... I may have to try this so called Mint that you use.
                That's funny because everyone I've put on Linux has loved it. In reality, most computer users only use a fraction of their computer's capability. Most of the use is limited to internet browsing and email. Linux has been perfect because it's secure and easy to use for them. I no longer get calls every month because of a Windows BSOD.

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                • #38
                  NissanPreRunner
                  Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 448

                  I just think that they are afraid of leaving something that in their mind works perfectly well. Like a do not fix what is not broken kind of mentality. I have tried to explain but I don't think that they get it. Maybe a different GUI other than Ubuntu and one that mimics Windows will help get rid of their fears.

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                  • #39
                    NSR500
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 19530

                    Originally posted by NissanPreRunner
                    I just think that they are afraid of leaving something that in their mind works perfectly well. Like a do not fix what is not broken kind of mentality. I have tried to explain but I don't think that they get it. Maybe a different GUI other than Ubuntu and one that mimics Windows will help get rid of their fears.
                    It's called (Ubuntu) Gnome Fallback, Lubuntu, or Xubuntu.

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                    • #40
                      Ralgha
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 149

                      I used Linux a lot in college for the ease of network drives and shells along with development tools.

                      Now I've switched back to Windows (7) because it just works better. I was always fiddling with crap in Linux, and most of the GUIs left something to be desired.

                      The major applications are just better. Photoshop is far better than The Gimp, yes I've used both quite a bit. Office is better than Open Office, again, I really wanted to like Open Office, but it's just too slow. Not to mention games. Even the few that have a Linux version are hell to make work.

                      Sent from my Galaxy Nexus that ate your iPhone.

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                      • #41
                        the86d
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 9587

                        Originally posted by Ralgha
                        I used Linux a lot in college for the ease of network drives and shells along with development tools.

                        Now I've switched back to Windows (7) because it just works better. I was always fiddling with crap in Linux, and most of the GUIs left something to be desired.

                        The major applications are just better. Photoshop is far better than The Gimp, yes I've used both quite a bit. Office is better than Open Office, again, I really wanted to like Open Office, but it's just too slow. Not to mention games. Even the few that have a Linux version are hell to make work...
                        Many of use do not wish to support Microsoft, and got sick of buying a new computer every time M$ decides to end of life a product, or hardware/driver for current hardware will no longer work on a new OS, so you have to buy new everything: new scanners, and printers. They put out an OS so they can make money, so they can fix products and then when they finally make the OS worthy of stable use, EOL! WHY did we need a new version of Windows, or Office when the old version (after updates) finally stops having issues? The same reason that Apple puts out new phones, because people will buy it to have the newest trendy thing. Hell it is bad when M$ drop some dubstep on an IE commercial, AND requires IE when using Sharepoint, so you can't remove it, STILL.

                        Open Source brings life to this (barely) dated hardware FOR FREE, and is not a CPU hungry, and does not try to "wipe for you" when you are not done with your business yet, like Vista, Win7 (Win8 too?).

                        Microsoft screwed up when they (I am told, and the slack I've seen recently in Vista, 7, Etc.) started using programmers in India. This is why Vista was whack, and 7 brings up different menus when you right-click a file, or just stares at you when you click something... untested thoroughly in a heavy-hitting environment. It is just getting worse, although they fixed the major issues in WinVista (AFAIK, as I never used it for anything I needed to keep running, just like WinMe).

                        Just saying I am about done with M$, although I will probably use their products if work pays for them for users.
                        Last edited by the86d; 06-07-2012, 7:59 AM.

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                        • #42
                          JDay
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19393

                          Originally posted by the86d
                          Many of use do not wish to support Microsoft, and got sick of buying a new computer every time M$ decides to end of life a product, or hardware/driver for current hardware will no longer work on a new OS, so you have to buy new everything: new scanners, and printers.
                          This is just not true. If a manufacturer doesn't release drivers for a new version of Windows that is hardly Microsoft's fault. BTW, Vista and Windows 7 have pretty much the exact same driver model, drivers for one work with the other. I have 10+ year old hardware that works under Windows 7, just plug it in and Windows grabs the drivers automatically.
                          Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                          The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                          • #43
                            the86d
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 9587

                            Originally posted by JDay
                            This is just not true. If a manufacturer doesn't release drivers for a new version of Windows that is hardly Microsoft's fault. BTW, Vista and Windows 7 have pretty much the exact same driver model, drivers for one work with the other. I have 10+ year old hardware that works under Windows 7, just plug it in and Windows grabs the drivers automatically.
                            Try that with a printer that will never be end of life'd HP Laserjet 5Si. Slackware just worked with my old scanner I used on Win95/98/2000.
                            Last edited by the86d; 06-07-2012, 9:40 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Merc1138
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19742

                              Originally posted by the86d
                              Try that with a printer that will never be end of life'd HP Laserjet 5Si. Slackware just worked with my old scanner I used on Win95/98/2000.
                              What about it? HP has 32 and 64 bit windows 7 drivers. You keep going back to this one scanner... how old is that thing? If you actually do use it regularly I'm amazed it still works. Yet you keep calling it "barely dated" hardware when apparently the manufacturer couldn't be bothered to support the product beyond windows 2000.

                              You also complain about MS releasing new product versions... seriously? Do you use 10 year old linux distros(didn't I bring that up already?) or something? You also complain about windows just staring at you, what does that even mean? What were you clicking that managed to do nothing? Different menus when you right click a file, uhhh because they're context sensitive and the OS has different menu options based on the file type? Aside from one old printer that is collecting dust in a closet, I can't even think of any computer hardware in my home that's more than 5 years old with the exception of an old netbook that I use with a usb serial adapter as a portable terminal(and that's usually at the office anyway). Wait, no. I believe the 2nd LCD on my desktop is 6 years old.

                              I can tell you that my desktop system at home over it's various incarnations has had zero issues(aside from the occasional hardware problem that would have been an issue with linux as well) since I quit letting guests use it to check their email or whatever idiotic things they do and just mindlessly click "yes" on everything that pops up, roughly 7 years ago or so. My HTPC put together with pretty much obsolete hardware(an old core 2 duo, radeon 4870, 4GB of DDR2, random lga775 motherboard) also runs windows 7 flawlessly(and I don't let people check their email, facebook, etc. on that either). It would seem the only difference between linux and windows, is that linux is harder for you to screw up(not that it's impossible to do so).

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                              • #45
                                yellowsulphur
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 1631

                                Originally posted by Ralgha
                                I used Linux a lot in college for the ease of network drives and shells along with development tools.

                                Now I've switched back to Windows (7) because it just works better. I was always fiddling with crap in Linux, and most of the GUIs left something to be desired.

                                The major applications are just better. Photoshop is far better than The Gimp, yes I've used both quite a bit. Office is better than Open Office, again, I really wanted to like Open Office, but it's just too slow. Not to mention games. Even the few that have a Linux version are hell to make work.

                                Sent from my Galaxy Nexus that ate your iPhone.
                                LibreOffice is an improvement over OpenOffice as development stopped when Oracle acquired it. I agree with you though on how the GUIs could be quite clunky, but as of late they have started to mature. Of course I've only run Gnome or Fluxbox so my experience in limited.

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