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  • #16
    Big Chudungus
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 1947

    Originally posted by Fastattack
    Just switched to Brave and so far I have no complaints. I hear the new Mozilla brass are total libtard activists. I also have seen the signs the Firefox was in trouble and future in doubt.
    IIRC the real guy at Firefox was ousted in some Me Too type coup. IIRC he didn't actually "do anything" to anyone, he just said something and didn't beg. So of course he gets replaced by some not really a programmer woman to "manage" the project. Basically an HR person, not a computer person.

    Does anyone know exactly to what level of ID they are selling the data? I've heard other cases where they claim its only stuff that isn't about "you" per say, just stuff like how many hits their total users give a website, or patterns, etc. But unless all that is also Open Source AND your EUA allows people to sue their asses for violations, it means nothing.

    Pretty sure any MS EUA have fine print that says "we can do anything, you can do nothing", so any claims, statements, promises, "policy" about "respecting your privacy" and "only to Law Enforcement on request" and "we publish how many LE requests we get and how many we reject" besides that are meaningless and they are perfectly legally able to just plain lie about stuff....EXCEPT for the fact they are noticeably NOT in the EUA.

    Its like when a DA or AG makes some big statement on the court house steps. They are Govt Officials and "Officers of the Court" but ain't Under Oath so they can and do tell any lies they want, including about the "Facts of the Case".

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    • #17
      Big Chudungus
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 1947

      I want to move to Brave but.....

      " To import your Firefox data:
      1. In Brave, go to Menu --> Bookmarks --> Import bookmarks and Settings
      2. Select Mozilla Firefox from the dropdown menu –
      "

      its not showing me Firefox, only MS Exploreer and MS Edge, which I never use. I use Firefox as my main and pretty much only.

      This is why people don't use Open Source. Most of the time it just doesn't work without an extra couple hours of quality time debugging.

      Well, I guess if I manually add to Brave it will clean up my Bookmarks.

      I've heard nerd will make an HTML file of bookmarks, somehow.


      EDIT I figured it out with help of a Youtube. Brave's directions seem just plain useless and wrong.
      Last edited by Big Chudungus; 05-16-2025, 12:38 PM.

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      • #18
        nishanh
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 232

        Originally posted by Big Chudungus

        IIRC the real guy at Firefox was ousted in some Me Too type coup. IIRC he didn't actually "do anything" to anyone, he just said something and didn't beg. So of course he gets replaced by some not really a programmer woman to "manage" the project. Basically an HR person, not a computer person.

        Does anyone know exactly to what level of ID they are selling the data? I've heard other cases where they claim its only stuff that isn't about "you" per say, just stuff like how many hits their total users give a website, or patterns, etc. But unless all that is also Open Source AND your EUA allows people to sue their asses for violations, it means nothing.

        Pretty sure any MS EUA have fine print that says "we can do anything, you can do nothing", so any claims, statements, promises, "policy" about "respecting your privacy" and "only to Law Enforcement on request" and "we publish how many LE requests we get and how many we reject" besides that are meaningless and they are perfectly legally able to just plain lie about stuff....EXCEPT for the fact they are noticeably NOT in the EUA.

        Its like when a DA or AG makes some big statement on the court house steps. They are Govt Officials and "Officers of the Court" but ain't Under Oath so they can and do tell any lies they want, including about the "Facts of the Case".
        Brendan Eich, then Mozilla CEO and inventor of JavaScript was flushed out of Mozilla when it was discovered that he voted "Yes" on Prop 8 in CA. He's now the CEO of Brave Software that makes the Brave browser

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        • #19
          Cowboy T
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2010
          • 5706

          Originally posted by arrix

          Agreed, I use Brave for the same reason. Open source. But do you compile from source? If you don't, you could still be using a closed source version like Chrome to Chromium.
          First, Chrome is closed source; Chromium isn't (https://source.chromium.org/chromium...+/main:LICENSE). The Chromium license is the 3-clause BSD license. Chrome comes from the open-source (BSD-licensed) Chromium project, much like Apple's MacOS comes from FreeBSD.

          Second, I generally use Firefox. I actually have compiled Firefox--and Thunderbird--and SeaMonkey--from source in the past. This was on Slackware GNU/Linux, and it wasn't too hard to set up the build environment. I typically don't now simply because of time; same reason I don't do LFS or Gentoo Stage 3 build.
          Last edited by Cowboy T; 06-12-2025, 9:08 PM.
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