AT&T bandwidth cap

[ocabj]

UCR FTW:

[PendulousMind]

Love my FIOS!

[paul0660]

What's the rational for NOT paying more for more use?

[Outta Control]

Wow and just think I just switched from AT&T DSL Elite to Sonic. Good timing on my end. I am zooming onto CG from 6mb to 12mb .

[glockman19]

Att residential DSL is capped at 1.5Mb/s. I juste tested at 1.02Mb/s. This service is $28 per month.

U-verse is available for $45 per month for 12Mb/s, $55 for 16Mb/s and $65 for 24Mb/s, This does not include the TV package just internet..Oh yea...they charge $149 to install, (must be installed by a ATT representative and $75 for the modem).

I wonder what the download speed is for my DirectTV?

[high_revs]

I think them and Comcast are really doing this because of online content providers like Netflix.

I'm with comcast with a monthly limit of 260gb. It is hard to reach that but I did in December due to forced time off and streamed from amazon HD for movies I bought (allowed to also stream once). I went to 265 gb or so for December but I didn't get an email from them. I stream quite a bit but not a much HD from netflix.

Re: question of why should you not pay if you use more? well, these were setup before w/o caps. Now AT&T and comcast are trying to milk it further as more and more usage goes to the internet. Note that pictures are getting sharper, larger; videos larger, sharper (hd). So it's easy to fill the pipes with content even if speeds are increasing over the past years. not really all that different from like 2005/2006. but AT&T and comcast see this as potential revenue for them. I doubt the network really gets chocked by the few people that use up that much. Just like AT&T charging more for iPhone users when they stream way too much and say "you're crippling the network!"

[L4D]

I game all the time. Download about 5-10 movies a month anywhere from 1-4GB each movie. and come nowhere near the 250GB cap. As a matter of fact I come nowhere near the 150GB cap as well

How the hell are you home users using 150/250GB a month? (U-verse users).




edit: forgot some of you are massive porno collectors. I understand. Good day.

[Merc1138]

What's the rational for NOT paying more for more use?

Because when we signed up we signed up for unlimited use and these caps came after the fact. Also, pricing per MB/s is already overpriced as it is here in the US.

The ISPs want to claim that someone streaming from netflix all day long cripples the network for the grandma next door browsing knitting patterns online. So the consumer level ISPs pick one of two options, include caps that you never agreed to or start throttling your bandwidth based on services(like cripping your bandwidth when you're using netflix unless you the consumer or netflix the business want to pay more). Hence the net neutrality arguments(since the current internet is neutral but as an example, a cable company wants to cripple their competitions traffic over the network because they'd rather the customers use the cable companies content). And if a tier 1 ISP decides to do that, then you're completely screwed no matter what local ISP you pick as a consumer.

Unlike the water, gas, and electric company, there isn't an actual resource being used up when you feel like running the faucet 24/7. That's why you pay $ per unit of resource used each month. It doesn't make a bit of difference to comcast if you use 5MB or 500GB unless it's in an area where they over-sold their services without upgrading the network first(used to happen a lot 10 years ago). Now my comparison for bandwidth usage above was extreme, but from a technical standpoint you could use 100GB of bandwidth or 150GB and your ISPs network is actually under the same load if the applications you're using happen to just use smaller packets(1000 or so bytes instead of 1500 bytes).

Imagine if your cellphone company switched your unlimited night and weekend minutes to only 300 a month without even asking you, just because they feel that most people only need 300 a month even though when you signed up it was unlimited. You wouldn't put up with that. That's what this is. The ISPs are trying to appease the lowest common denominator and then squeeze everyone else for more cash.

[Jeepers]

I game all the time. Download about 5-10 movies a month anywhere from 1-4GB each movie. and come nowhere near the 250GB cap. As a matter of fact I come nowhere near the 150GB cap as well

How the hell are you home users using 150/250GB a month? (U-verse users).




edit: forgot some of you are massive porno collectors. I understand. Good day.

some of us dont live in the "city" and dont get OTA reception meaning everything uses bandwidth from NCIS to family guy .... and gaming uses nothing compared to streaming HD movies ....

[JERK]

I was getting great speeds with TWC, but Verizon Fios is a beast!

[L4D]

I was getting great speeds with TWC, but Verizon Fios is a beast!

DAMN! your a jerk for having that much bandwidth.

[high_revs]

DAYUM!!! 43mpbs? best i ever got direct connect to cable and not thru router was like 21 or 22mpbs

is that from work? LOL

[paul0660]

Because when we signed up we signed up for unlimited use and these caps came after the fact. Also, pricing per MB/s is already overpriced as it is here in the US.

The ISPs want to claim that someone streaming from netflix all day long cripples the network for the grandma next door browsing knitting patterns online. So the consumer level ISPs pick one of two options, include caps that you never agreed to or start throttling your bandwidth based on services(like cripping your bandwidth when you're using netflix unless you the consumer or netflix the business want to pay more). Hence the net neutrality arguments(since the current internet is neutral but as an example, a cable company wants to cripple their competitions traffic over the network because they'd rather the customers use the cable companies content). And if a tier 1 ISP decides to do that, then you're completely screwed no matter what local ISP you pick as a consumer.

Unlike the water, gas, and electric company, there isn't an actual resource being used up when you feel like running the faucet 24/7. That's why you pay $ per unit of resource used each month. It doesn't make a bit of difference to comcast if you use 5MB or 500GB unless it's in an area where they over-sold their services without upgrading the network first(used to happen a lot 10 years ago). Now my comparison for bandwidth usage above was extreme, but from a technical standpoint you could use 100GB of bandwidth or 150GB and your ISPs network is actually under the same load if the applications you're using happen to just use smaller packets(1000 or so bytes instead of 1500 bytes).

Imagine if your cellphone company switched your unlimited night and weekend minutes to only 300 a month without even asking you, just because they feel that most people only need 300 a month even though when you signed up it was unlimited. You wouldn't put up with that. That's what this is. The ISPs are trying to appease the lowest common denominator and then squeeze everyone else for more cash.

You are right, changing the deal in the middle of a contract shouldn't be allowed.

I don't think bandwidth is unlimited, so it is something that should have a price, and the streaming vid thing is new enough, and big enough, to demand a reaction from the companies that provide the bandwidth. Of course they want to make more dough.

Btw, I get 8 to 12 mbps wireless on this laptop from a Comcast plan that costs about $65 out the door, not sure exactly. It has a 250 GB cap (maybe 260). All I know this is a lot better than when the remote for the TV was kicking little sis so she would tune another of the 13 channels.

I remember the Heidi game..........what a disaster.

[C.W.M.V.]

I use nothing but Netflix, and Ive never had a problem with Comcast.
Netflix runs all hours of the day, and two computers browsing/downloading stuff from the interwebs.
EDIT: Its a good thing too, because here there are no other options.

[JERK]

DAYUM!!! 43mpbs? best i ever got direct connect to cable and not thru router was like 21 or 22mpbs

is that from work? LOL

Nope. In my area you can order fios that hits 150mbps.