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  • #16
    Dutch3
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2010
    • 14181

    Originally posted by Kodemonkey
    Funny how 30-40 year old technology is the most stable. Is ISDN still around?
    I had an ISDN circuit out here in the boonies for a few years. The only other choice was dialup at about 19.2kbps.

    The ISDN cost about $140/mo including the dual-channel ISP fees. It was much better than dialup (I also "telecommute" and babysit servers from home, etc.) and fairly reliable. The downside was the 20+ miles of wet cable between me and the CO, and the fact that most current ATT techs are not familiar with ISDN. On a couple of occasions, I had to contact a supervisor down in Pasadena that was able to light a fire under the local crew to get things working.

    Thankfully, a lightning strike a few years ago destroyed the local pairgain equipment (thank you, God!) and it was replaced with a DSL-capable RT.

    At work, we have gigabit connections to our ISP, but still have a T-1 at each site for failover backup.
    Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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    • #17
      zenmastar
      Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 151

      I'm getting a T1 - INTO MY APARTMENT!
      Not impressive in this decade or the last one at all. You should look into WiMAX (not cellular version) internet providers first. There are some for Sonora area.

      T1 in this decade is the equivalent of 56Kbs of the last decade.

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      • #18
        zenmastar
        Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 151

        double tap, internet service here is too fast!

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        • #19
          oaklander
          Banned
          • May 2006
          • 11095

          We have a tree problem (and the ones that need cutting are not on our property). So no "line of sight" anything.

          We are staying here because we are getting a really good deal on the apartment, and with my boss paying about half, I don't pay the full amount.

          We will probably stay here about a year or so, then transfer the T1 to where we move for the remainder of the 2 year contract. Right now we are both broke, since the wedding was fairly expensive (I wanted to give my wife a nice wedding), and we both have some back bills to take care of.

          What I will likely do, depending on if the bandwith supports it, is set up a second monitor with a virtual terminal connected to one of our servers, and use that to access and edit files on our file server - then use my local computer (via VPN) for email and the "cloud" software that I use for most of my work.

          Originally posted by zenmastar
          Not impressive in this decade or the last one at all. You should look into WiMAX (not cellular version) internet providers first. There are some for Sonora area.

          T1 in this decade is the equivalent of 56Kbs of the last decade.

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          • #20
            Nessal
            Banned
            • Jan 2009
            • 2261

            Originally posted by zenmastar
            Not impressive in this decade or the last one at all. You should look into WiMAX (not cellular version) internet providers first. There are some for Sonora area.

            T1 in this decade is the equivalent of 56Kbs of the last decade.

            Then 99.9999% of the population must be prehistoric.

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            • #21
              hcbr
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 4733

              man this is nostalgia for me, T1 was great at it's time, and hey, for work purposes, if you don't need anything critical or huge down the pipe, it's just fine to do regular work and browsing! I'm sorry to hear your area has no provision for any options, which would drive me NUTS!

              Anyways, enjoy the t1 and use up that sucker!
              Be the change that you wish to see in the world.Mahatma Gandhi

              "A bullet sounds the same in every language..."
              Stewie Griffin (Family Guy Episode: Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story 2005)

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              • #22
                SikDMAX
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 1072

                Sounds like T1 isnt all as hot as it used to be?
                SikDMAX

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                • #23
                  Cokebottle
                  Señor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by oaklander
                  It's not that fast (at 1.54), but I never thought that I would be connected to the 'net via a "real" T1. I'll miss the 20mbps that I was getting with my cable internet in Oakland, but I will like the 99.999 percent uptime in the SLA.
                  Amazing.

                  It wasn't that long ago (was 1995 that long ago?) that a single T1 was sufficient for an ISP to support 300 subscribers.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #24
                    sepiid
                    Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 353

                    at times i would give up my 60$ a month comcast for my old 500$ a month t1 just cause comcast connection sucks so much.

                    constantly having to reboot there "new" docsys 3.x modem and tv jittering and phone service that is iffy

                    i know in the marin county there is a company called webperception.com a local isp that provides great service! (i used them for 5 years) they might be able to point you in the direction of someone similar in sonora county

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                    • #25
                      command_liner
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1175

                      ISDN still has some magic, but it is slow.

                      The reason ISDN is good is because it is considered residential telephone service
                      when you order it at a residence. As a result, the PUC gets involved when you have
                      outages. Nobody knows how it works, or even how to order it, but you can get it.

                      When it comes to being pushy, there is nothing quite like ISDN. If you have PacBell,
                      just whip out the consent decree that they are _still_ operating under, and start
                      reading the provisions. I especially like the penalty: PacBell has to pay you $5 per
                      day that your ISDN service does not work! Try that with the cable company. I am
                      one of the handful people that actually collected on that.
                      What about the 19th? Can the Commerce Clause be used to make it illegal for voting women to buy shoes from another state?

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                      • #26
                        sevensix2x51
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3835

                        i think i might get an oc3 at the house, so i could actually win on call of duty. sure, its a little cost prohibitive, but in the end, i think its worth it. this cable internet just doesnt cut it, even with my gamer lounge router. i havent seen better than 2megabits per second when i download my public domain songs.

                        i remember when t1 was the hottest thing out... i think i was on a 19200baud modem.
                        just the idea of having it at your house makes me feel a little giddy inside, my inner repressed youth computer nerd is coming out... awesome.

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                        • #27
                          sepiid
                          Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 353

                          a dedicated oc3 would be 45Mb/s symmetrical
                          and would hit about 20k /m +install +trenching +fiber run +everything else involved in digging up your street and local permits and ...

                          but the 20k/m kinda throws me off. but if i was a bazillionare...

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                          • #28
                            evidens83
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 7839

                            I'm jealous.
                            WTS 10/22 Lasermax laser CHEAP!!!

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                            • #29
                              wash
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 9011

                              My employer foolishly leased a building about 3 years ago which had no means of internet connection beside T1 line (and 2/3G wireless). We had to do T1 at about $400 a month after we used an air card for a few days.

                              We just moved in to another building and now can get a faster $60 a month cable modem setup on a comercial account with guaranteed uptime and whatever else they do different from residential customers.

                              So far I haven't noticed a difference but I haven't downloaded any large files yet.

                              On the other hand, I doubt I'll ever have a connection as sweet as what I had at UCLA, 10baseT straight in to the backbone when most people were still on 14.4 kbps dial up.
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                              • #30
                                Deucer
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 716

                                Originally posted by wash
                                My employer foolishly leased a building about 3 years ago which had no means of internet connection beside T1 line (and 2/3G wireless). We had to do T1 at about $400 a month after we used an air card for a few days.

                                We just moved in to another building and now can get a faster $60 a month cable modem setup on a comercial account with guaranteed uptime and whatever else they do different from residential customers.

                                So far I haven't noticed a difference but I haven't downloaded any large files yet.

                                On the other hand, I doubt I'll ever have a connection as sweet as what I had at UCLA, 10baseT straight in to the backbone when most people were still on 14.4 kbps dial up.
                                Wow, how many other people here went to UCLA? Go Bruins.

                                I miss my T3 connection...
                                LET'S GO SHARKS!
                                LET'S GO GIANTS!

                                "Clearly you spend way too much time in darkened rooms in front of your computer. Go outside once in a while and breathe before your brain starts to rot from all that stagnation and cognitive dysfunction. You couldn't get a clue during clue mating season in a field of clues if you dipped your body in musk and did the clue mating dance. Leave me alone with all of this nonsense and go shoot them for yourself."

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