FCC Approves Confusing Net Neutrality

[RRangel]

Congress is wrong? Strange, they're in the process of expanding the FCC's power so there is no question over this. The only people in Congress who are against this are the ones who have their campaigns funded by Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, etc. You should watch those videos I posted.

FAIL.

[Can'thavenuthingood]

I'm against this net neutrality.
I see no reason for the government to get involved with the internet. They will only add fees, taxes, surcharges, excise taxes and anything to help pay for some dam thing they dream up.

I think New America and Public Knowledge are supported by George Soros, I'd have to research it but seems to me I read a doc or article somewhere.

New America article here another here. They want to register guns, makes it easier to find the criminals.
Public Knowledge is directly funded by the Open Society Institute.
Senator John Kerry is for Net Neutrality.

No credibility there for me.

I don't like regulatory agencies running the government, way too Czarlike for me.
Its for the Congress to decide.

Vick

[RRangel]

I'm against this net neutrality.
I see no reason for the government to get involved with the internet. They will only add fees, taxes, surcharges, excise taxes and anything to help pay for some dam thing they dream up.

I think New America and Public Knowledge are supported by George Soros, I'd have to research it but seems to me I read a doc or article somewhere.

New America article here another here. They want to register guns, makes it easier to find the criminals.
Public Knowledge is directly funded by the Open Society Institute.
Senator John Kerry is for Net Neutrality.

No credibility there for me.

I don't like regulatory agencies running the government, way too Czarlike for me.
Its for the Congress to decide.

Vick

Supporters of government interference will never have a conversation about Robert McChesney and Freedom Press. When you bring up the various people and organizations behind "net neutrality" the silence becomes deafening.

Because this man, his organization, and his cohort's ideological beliefs give them away. These freedom phonies and their plans have been covered in various media formats, so much so, that their intentions are undeniable. Our forum naysayers would rather change the focus of the conversation.

[anthonyca]

Comcast has been caught throttling before.. I have been throttled and it truely makes your blood boil.. especially when you call Comcast and ask if they have reinstated throttling and they laugh and say "yes, we have".

If the FCC passed a TRUE "net neutrality" policy today, then good for them. People such as I, the consumer will benefit.

If the FCC passed a net neutrality policy that is riddled with loopholes.. we may be doomed.

Given their track record, this will not be good for us. Look at the FDA, SEC, FED, FDA. We will have some one from google, comcast, or another Internet company as a high level official in the FCC soon. I am willing to bet on it.

[Scratch705]

for all those that claim the private ISP's can do what they want. lets see how happy you are if they really do get their way, and anything gun related gets restricted to lower than 56K speeds such as this forum. where gun manufacturers get charged extra for having their pages up. or online firearm dealers such as midway, palmetto, etc are also charged higher rates due to their content of "firearms" which is unliked by the ISPs. in which then they pass on that extra fees to us consumers.

or slowing down connection to netflix b/c it cuts into their video on demand services, or disables any web pages that complains about any one of their sub-companies.

sometimes, private businesses do not have the consumers in mind, and the only recourse is the government. i also do like how some here complain that the government is all big and evil, but yet call those who serve for the government through the military are honorable or proud to have served. if anything joining PMCs should be more honorable to you since it is private organization, not a government entity.

in this case of net neutrality, Jday has it right. there is no other competition, Comcast, ATT, Verizon, Time Warner Cable they own the connection to the internet. any little startup ISPs, rent access from these top ISPs since they are the keepers of the gateway. there is no workaround, there is no alternative, they are the only choice. they own all the cables running throughout the country. the only way a startup ISP can get around them is to lay new network cable lines, and what do you think that costs?

[bigmike82]

"the only way a startup ISP can get around them is to lay new network cable lines, and what do you think that costs?"
Oh, and by the way, good luck getting approval from your local government to lay those lines.

Hell, the big boys have sued smaller cities who were going to offer broadband to their citizens. I mean...come on. This completely ludicrious. The notion that there is any semblence of fair competition when it comes to non-cell telephony, internet service and cable is completely insane.

[HotRails]

OK, help a layman understand here. I understand the part that states that this will prevent ISP's from interfering with content on the internet. But will this bill strengthen the FCC's power to interfere with content, as some suggest or will it only increase their power to prevent private entities from doing so.

[bigmike82]

It prevents the companies from prioritizing traffic from various sites over others; it doesn't prevent them from prioritizing traffic *types*. So they can still implement QoS for VOIP, Video, and so forth. What they CAN'T do, if Net Neutrality is enacted, is favor democrat.com over calguns.net.

Which...by the way...is exactly what RRangel (and other NN opponents) is arguing for. NN isn't about the FCC controlling what passes on the internet...it's about preventing the major ISPs (who have enjoyed decades of monopolistic protections from the gov) from controlling what you can look at.

[botsdots]

My prediction:

Internet connectivity prices will skyrocket (like $100-$150/mo for standard cable internet) and the "Television" portion will continue to drop in price and be around $10/mo. Then all the low cost providers (Vonage, Netflix, Hulu Plus, etc.) won't look so attractive. Satellite companies won't be able to compete.

The last mile folks will get their money somehow.