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  • Cbr1000Rider
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    • Dec 2009
    • 373

    FCC Approves Confusing Net Neutrality

    Well it is here.. we know what we want but did we really get it? It seems there are loopholes in this that makes it favorable for companies like Comcast or ATT... I don't look at today as a victory until I hear a statement from Google about it.

    IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT "NET NEUTRALITY" MEANS... PLEASE READ HERE..



    If Net Neutrality opponents has been in charge back in the 1970s, I wouldn't have been able to build the first Apple computers


    THEN READ THE FOLLOWING STORIES HERE...



    The Federal Communications Commission on Tuesday approved "high-level rules of the road" designed to ensure that internet providers grant everyone equal access to the Web.
    Last edited by Cbr1000Rider; 12-21-2010, 4:54 PM.
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    Mute
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    • Oct 2005
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    Net neutrality is stupid because the only way to implement it is through the government. Give anything over to a bunch of power-tripping bureaucrats and you're bound to see nothing but FUBAR. When are people going to learn?
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    • #3
      POLICESTATE
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      • Apr 2009
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      The problems that will spawn as a result of government meddling with the internet will never be noticed or discussed on the internet. That's kind of the point
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      • #4
        atto
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        • Dec 2009
        • 434

        I think it's a step in the right direction. It's better to prevent damage than to fix it after the fact.

        To those confused:

        Network neutrality (also net neutrality, Internet neutrality) is a principle proposed for user access networks participating in the Internet that advocates no restrictions by Internet service providers and governments on content, sites, platforms, the kinds of equipment that may be attached, and the modes of communication.
        Basically telecom companies have thought about slowing down or preventing access to websites/service that are competitors (Hulu for TV, Skype for phone calls, etc.). This prevents it from happening.
        Last edited by atto; 12-21-2010, 1:27 PM.

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        • #5
          Cbr1000Rider
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          • Dec 2009
          • 373

          Originally posted by POLICESTATE
          The problems that will spawn as a result of government meddling with the internet will never be noticed or discussed on the internet. That's kind of the point
          I don't think you understand what net neutrality means.

          Net neutrality in a nut shell is basically a concept that states "You can't fu*k with the internet"... That means ISP's can't throttle your internet connection for downloading more than your neighbor.. even though you both pay for the same unlimited internet plan. Comcast has throttled internet for years. It also means ISP's can't charge businesses like Netflix a fee for streaming movies to users... while not charging other websites fees... this is ALSO something Comcast has done.

          Although.. the "net neutrality" that was passed today is driving criticism due to loopholes... that actually help dominant company's like Comcast. That is not good for you nor I.. the consumer.
          Last edited by Cbr1000Rider; 12-21-2010, 1:34 PM.

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          • #6
            bigmike82
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            • Jan 2008
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            The concept of net neutrality grew the internet into what it is today. Though I'm generally against government meddling, in the case of NN, it's absolutely necessary.
            -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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            • #7
              Cbr1000Rider
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              • Dec 2009
              • 373

              Comcast has been caught throttling before.. I have been throttled and it truely makes your blood boil.. especially when you call Comcast and ask if they have reinstated throttling and they laugh and say "yes, we have".

              If the FCC passed a TRUE "net neutrality" policy today, then good for them. People such as I, the consumer will benefit.

              If the FCC passed a net neutrality policy that is riddled with loopholes.. we may be doomed.

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              • #8
                Mute
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                • Oct 2005
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                That's the problem. I don't see TRUE net neutrality happening any time soon.
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                • #9
                  bigmike82
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                  Anything in the right direction is worthwhile. Consumer outrage is all well and good, but sometimes it takes the heavy boot of the government to force the corps to play by the rules. I don't like it when it happens, but sometimes, that's the only thing that'll work.
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                  • #10
                    Cbr1000Rider
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                    • Dec 2009
                    • 373

                    Originally posted by Mute
                    That's the problem. I don't see TRUE net neutrality happening any time soon.
                    This is why I await a comment from Google regarding the latest update. They are for true net neutrality... anything that has to do with net neutrality directly affects their business and they are pretty quick to be in the loop.



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                    • #11
                      POLICESTATE
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 18185

                      I understand what NN is, however I don't believe the FCC does.

                      Originally posted by Cbr1000Rider
                      I don't think you understand what net neutrality means.

                      Net neutrality in a nut shell is basically a concept that states "You can't fu*k with the internet"... That means ISP's can't throttle your internet connection for downloading more than your neighbor.. even though you both pay for the same unlimited internet plan. Comcast has throttled internet for years. It also means ISP's can't charge businesses like Netflix a fee for streaming movies to users... while not charging other websites fees... this is ALSO something Comcast has done.

                      Although.. the "net neutrality" that was passed today is driving criticism due to loopholes... that actually help dominant company's like Comcast. That is not good for you nor I.. the consumer.
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                      • #12
                        Cbr1000Rider
                        Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 373

                        Great letter by Steve Wozniak on the issue

                        If Net Neutrality opponents has been in charge back in the 1970s, I wouldn't have been able to build the first Apple computers

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                        • #13
                          ang3c0
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                          • Dec 2009
                          • 179

                          Real NN legislation needs to be passed, Yesterday.
                          Socialism. The republican buzzword since WMDs didn't work out.
                          Originally posted by pratchett
                          Doesn't anyone here just want to be left alone?

                          Shoot a gun, marry a homosexual, go to church, buy a tank, cut down a tree, pay a prostitute, smoke marijuana, burn a flag, be a nun...

                          It's called freedom. Just leave me alone while you're exercising it.

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                          • #14
                            RRangel
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                            Originally posted by Cbr1000Rider
                            Well it is here.. we know what we want but did we really get it? It seems there are loopholes in this that makes it favorable for companies like Comcast or ATT... I don't look at today as a victory until I hear a statement from Google about it.

                            IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT "NET NEUTRALITY" MEANS... PLEASE READ HERE..



                            If Net Neutrality opponents has been in charge back in the 1970s, I wouldn't have been able to build the first Apple computers


                            THEN READ THE FOLLOWING STORIES HERE...



                            http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/12/...ex.html?hpt=T2
                            They say elections have consequences and today that's a major understatement. Despite over 300 signatures from House and Senate members opposing FCC internet regulation. Despite a court ruling by a federal appeals court that the FCC does not have the authority. Despite the FCCs own doubt as to their authority to make such regulation, our current president is bent on controlling the internet.

                            Let there be no mistake. The recent FCC action to foist “net neutrality” on the communications industry is a clear attempt at stifling freedom of speech. It is a construct for the purpose of taking control of electronic communication under the guise of public good. Its supporters hail from the same group of organizations that have been synonymous with George Soros.

                            FCC chairman Julius Genachowski's actions to impose regulations on the internet will really amount to what equates to a “fairness doctrine” for the internet. Ask yourself why this nation needs that. You won't be surprised to know that the idea was started by Robert McChesney, a radical University of Illinois professor, who is a self avowed Marxist. Who would have thought?

                            Julius Genachowski is reportedly a friend of Obama from law school. He visited the president, according to visitor logs, no less than 11 times. So then it's no big surprise that he would decree this takeover given his loyalties

                            What's taking place right under the nose of the American public is an attempt to silence opposition. This is obviously not about any public good. Only the same dirty tricks that we've come to expect from these people and it's a complete outrage.
                            Last edited by RRangel; 12-22-2010, 5:49 PM. Reason: corrected for clarity

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                            • #15
                              bigmike82
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                              Those regulations are necessary, and do not go far enough. The very notion that NN regulation threatens free speech is silly at best.
                              -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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