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  • Blackhawk556
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    • Nov 2008
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    Just bought a Mac, my review so far.

    Ok so i bought a Macbook Pro 2.4ghz 4gb 250HDD

    I didn't want to jump into the Mac platform just because so i waited and waited. I'm very familiar with windows so moving to another platform was not hard.
    I ran into a problem last night
    I was browsing the internet and my computer just froze. It wasn't porn
    I was actually here on calguns when I noticed that the cursor would not move anymore. At first, I thought it was just trying to finish processing something but then i noticed that nothing would work. i tried pressing buttons on the keyboard and NOTHING would happen. Finally I just held the power button and restarted. Other than this, everything else has been fine so far.

    One thing that I like is that the laptop shuts down very fast, I just hit shut down and that thing is dead in a few seconds. Also, waking from sleep is fast.

    what I don't like is that it has an internal battery. I know that Apple as done many improvements and claims that the 13" model has a 10hr life between charge. Should I always have it charging? No!
    I would like the option of removing the battery while at the house but too bad.

    I'm not use to the dock just yet, I don't like that i can't minimize thing by clicking on the icon below and why isn't there an easy way to maximize screens????? I click on the green button on top left and it doesn't fill up the screen. So far I like the taskbar on windows 7 waaayyyyy better. Macs need aero snap also.

    The system preferences seem very basic, not many options to confuse people. Is there an advance settings page???? or a diagnostics page or something similar as there is in windows????
    Last edited by Blackhawk556; 06-02-2010, 1:55 AM.
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    Blackhawk556
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    • Nov 2008
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    I started another thread earlier and asked about partitions and windows 7 product keys. Several of you suggested I try VMware fusion so I'm doing that now as i write this. I wanted windows on my Mac because I got a free copy of windows 7 and office 2007 directly from MS. i've tried using office for Mac but I'm not use to it (and i don't want to buy it)

    Ok so VMware installed windows 7 in about 30min. I was writing my review above when it finished so i'm not sure how long it took but 30min is about right. My Macbook is obviously running a little slower. the cursor doesn't move as fast but it is good most of the time. VMware is offering a 12 month complementary virus protection from Mcaffe virusscan plus but I think i'm going to pass on that bloat stuff.

    aero seems to be turned off, gotta find a way to turn it on.

    i'll be back
    Last edited by Blackhawk556; 06-02-2010, 1:57 AM.
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    • #3
      Casual_Shooter
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      • Sep 2006
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      Originally posted by du9207
      Ok so i bought a Macbook Pro 2.4ghz 4gb 250HDD

      I didn't want to jump into the Mac platform just because so i waited and waited. I'm very familiar with windows so moving to another platform was not hard.
      I ran into a problem last night
      I was browsing the internet and my computer just froze. It wasn't porn
      I was actually here on calguns when I noticed that the cursor would not move anymore. At first, I thought it was just trying to finish processing something but then i noticed that nothing would work. i tried pressing buttons on the keyboard and NOTHING would happen. Finally I just held the power button and restarted. Other than this, everything else has been fine so far.

      I'm not use to the dock just yet, I don't like that i can't minimize thing by clicking on the icon below and why isn't there an easy way to maximize screens????? I click on the green button on top left and it doesn't fill up the screen.

      The system preferences seem very basic, not many options to confuse people. Is there an advance settings page???? or a diagnostics page or something similar as there is in windows????
      Barring any oddball programs installed, he mouse freezing will probably not happen again or VERY rarely. I've found that new Macs will act a little funny at first and then be fine.

      Some freezing issues can be solved by using the key command: command+option+esc. This opens a window that allows you to close programs that aren't responding and avoids having to turn the computer off.

      Don't quite understand the minimize/ maximize comment. You can minimize a window by clicking the orange "-" sign next to the green. Clicking the green maximize button should do two things: First click should expand the window to the edges of your screen. Clicking it again should put it back to where it was. You can also resize the window manually which should set your default for that window.

      The dock can be set to "hide" by control clicking the dock and choosing "Turn Hiding On". This will make it slide down out of the screen.

      The preferences are very simple because it's a Mac. Don't worry about a diagnostic page. You typically won't need it... it's Mac afterall.
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        Blackhawk556
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        • Nov 2008
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        ok actually the Mac freezing is a huge problem. Ok, Apple hasn't officially acknowledged it but there is a 30 page thread with over 400 replies on their website. Many people are experiencing the same problem, especially with the i5/i7 cores. i have the Core2duo 2010 model but my system still froze.

        the green + sign doesn't maximize the screen to the edges, that is very annoying. Sometimes it expands it very little and that's it. Is there an easy way to minimize all the screens at once??

        I do hope Apple fixes the freezing problem, I'm still within my 14 days and i will try to get my system to freeze again so that i can take it back and get a new one. Yes it's a Mac, but they still have problems.

        check this thread out people
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          Casual_Shooter
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          Crazy thread. Glad I don't own an i5/i7 MBP.

          I don't know of a command to minimize all the windows although F11 key (expose) will move your windows out of the way to expose your desktop.
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          • #6
            Reductio
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 1923

            If you really want to maximise windows and the like efficiently, download Better Touch Tool here. Just set up a global gesture (for me it's a four-finger click) to "Maximise Window" and you're done. You can also use it to "maximise window left" or right, so it takes up exactly 1/2 your screen to the L/R. Best third-party software I've installed yet.
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            • #7
              DuneShoot
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              • May 2010
              • 1041

              Welcome to Mac's!

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              • #8
                Blackhawk556
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                • Nov 2008
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                Originally posted by Casual_Shooter
                Crazy thread. Glad I don't own an i5/i7 MBP.

                I don't know of a command to minimize all the windows although F11 key (expose) will move your windows out of the way to expose your desktop.
                yeah the problem seems more common on the i5/i7 computers. If anyone is thinking about buying one of these i would wait, seriously. I bought the 13" macbook pro core2duo but my system still froze

                here is a summary of the problem
                Here's a quick recap of everything about this issue:
                1. It's a hard freeze of the graphics and some services. Everything will stop and the mouse will continue to work for a few seconds before stopping too.
                2. Things like Skype and iTunes will continue to work, as you can still hear the sound/music.
                3. No current Apple Updates affect it (either for better or worse).
                4. It may or may not unfreeze after 10-15minutes of waiting.
                5. It affects 15" and 17" MacBook Pro, with some (fewer) reported issues of 13" MacBook Pro's doing it.
                6. It happens in both Mac OS X and Windows 7
                7. Hard Drives don't affect it at all. It happens with both SSDs, 5400rpm drives and 7200rpm drives.
                8. There are no entries in the System Log file.
                9. The machine is generally not under load at the time of the crash.
                10. Getting it replaced by Apple won't fix it, the replacement machine will still have the issue.
                11. If you unplug the Display port and plug it back in, you will get multicoloured static on the external screen.
                12. The temperature of the machine doesn't seem to matter. Low CPU Usage and low temps don't affect it.
                13. Being on battery power doesn't affect it. Some people report it only when on Battery Power. All of mine have happened when not on battery power.
                14. Apple Hardware Test shows nothing out of the ordinary.
                15. Using the Data Transfer to get data from an older machine doesn't affect it.
                16. It seems to mainly affect the Core i7 MacBook Pros, however there are a few cases of the i5's doing it too (and through the 1-2 reported 13" ones, the C2D chipsets too).
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                  Blackhawk556
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                  Originally posted by DuneShoot
                  Welcome to Mac's!
                  if the problem gets worse, i'm going to have to return it or something. Some people have gone back to apple to get replacements and they still experience the problem
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                    DuneShoot
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                    • May 2010
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                    Sorry to hear these issues. We have old MPB's and have had no real issues.

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                    • #11
                      masameet
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                      • Jun 2008
                      • 4487

                      To minimize, clicking the Apple logo + "M" buttons works for me.

                      Hope you get the freezing issue fixed.
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                      • #12
                        Casual_Shooter
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                        • Sep 2006
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                        Originally posted by masameet
                        To minimize, clicking the Apple logo + "M" buttons works for me.

                        Hope you get the freezing issue fixed.
                        That only works for one window. I think the OP is trying to minimize all windows at one time.
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                          Blackhawk556
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                          Originally posted by Casual_Shooter
                          That only works for one window. I think the OP is trying to minimize all windows at one time.
                          i hadn't tried expose that much but i think this will work fine


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                          the freezing isn't bad. It only froze one time, i hope it doesn't get worse
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                          • #14
                            Fate
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                            • Apr 2006
                            • 9545

                            To minimize all windows at once, hold down the option key and double click the window header of one window. Presto. You can also use Option key and yellow dot to minimize all. Option expand (green dot) puts all windows to full screen. Option close (red dot) closes all windows too.
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                            • #15
                              Casual_Shooter
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                              Originally posted by Fate
                              To minimize all windows at once, hold down the option key and double click the window header of one window. Presto.
                              This doesn't work on the machine I'm on here at my office (only one minimizes). Likewise, comm+option+m is supposed to minimize all windows, but not on my machine.

                              iMac G5, 2.1ghz PPC, 10.5.8

                              Additionally, the above mentioned tips only work within an application. I think the OP wants to minimize ALL windows.
                              Guns, dogs and home alarms. Opponents are all of a sudden advocates once their personal space is violated.

                              "Those who cannot remember the posts are condemned to repeat them"



                              Why is it all the funny stuff happens to comedians?

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