I'm the Apple man

[sfwdiy]

I come from the school of thought to always compile from source for your system. Matter of fact, I don't have any colleagues (coworkers or friends) that use pre-compiled Unix binaries. Plus, when you compile from source, it allows you to install in a jailed directory, as opposed to default paths like in /usr or /usr/local, which can poison the system's build environment, especially after you start updating a specific application.

i.e. I install things in the /inst directory, with /inst/pkg-ver and /inst/pkg as subdirs. If I want to compile and install Apache 2.2.13, I'll do a "./configure --prefix=/inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13 [other options] && make && make install" to put it in /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13. After that I'll symlink /inst/pkg/httpd to /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13. Then if say Apache 2.2.14 is released, I'll compile/install in /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.14 and test it. If it's good, I'll change the httpd symlink in /inst/pkg to /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.14. Then if for some reason I need to roll back to 2.2.13, I can.

Makes sense. I actually really like the idea of swapping symlinks to roll back to different versions of your install. I can see how that works really well in a development environment.

That said, I'm not a developer. Whenever I find myself in a position where the binaries or whatever's available from the repositories ain't cuttin' it, it's because I'm doing something that I have absolutely no actual use for and I'm just screwing around with things for the sake of it.

I wish you well on your compiling endeavors, with no more failing of dependency library checks.

--B

[ocabj]

Makes sense. I actually really like the idea of swapping symlinks to roll back to different versions of your install. I can see how that works really well in a development environment.
--B

Actually, this concept should be used in production as well. Particularly when you upgrade a specific package in a production service and weren't able to discover a bug during testing that only crops up after a few days of actual production use.

As far as being a developer, I'm not either. But as a systems administrator, more often that not you are doing things with packages/apps that aren't enabled in default binaries. Also, it's a good idea to always compile from source on your native system for optimizations which aren't present in a binary. Performance is very important when it comes to services used by your customers and/or clients (or in my case, the campus staff, faculty, and students).

[Wild Squid]

Is it possible to load Ubuntu or any other flavor of Unix on one of the new 15" Macbook Pros? I don't really want to use VMware Fusion as I don't want to pay for it, and would rather dual boot the OSX and Linux. I've searched online, and there really hasn't been a definitive answer nor how to do so. I've asked at a genius bar in a Apple store and they said no it wasn't possible. But I suspect he's just saying that cause Apple tells him so. I haven't bought a new Macbook yet, but the ability to do the above is what I'm basing my decision on.

[ocabj]

Yes, you can dual boot Ubuntu. There are how-to's on the Internet. I did it on my old Macbook (white) Core Duo.

Google search yielded this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ma...elInstallation

And you don't *have* to pay for VMWare. You can use VirtualBox (free).

[TonyKat]

Is it possible to load Ubuntu or any other flavor of Unix on one of the new 15" Macbook Pros? I don't really want to use VMware Fusion as I don't want to pay for it, and would rather dual boot the OSX and Linux. I've searched online, and there really hasn't been a definitive answer nor how to do so. I've asked at a genius bar in a Apple store and they said no it wasn't possible. But I suspect he's just saying that cause Apple tells him so. I haven't bought a new Macbook yet, but the ability to do the above is what I'm basing my decision on.

Yeah it's easy. Macs are the same as pcs hardware wise. Boot to the os x instal disk, use disk utility to live partition the hard drive. Then install liux and lilo or grub and you're good to go. Google is your best friend here.

[rosiekai]

Any idea why my iphone 3gs suddenly started pulling every email off of my server as a new message? It is showing 500+ new and 500+ unread. I delete them as they show up, but it just keeps bringing emails off of my server. I has been working fine since I got it in June until tonight.

I have 5 email accounts on the phone. It does not do this with my gmail account, just the others.

Thanks

[Darklyte27]

Tested macbook air before its release while working at intel back in 06/07. we were running winxp, as macs used intel chipsets and cpus.

[Richie Caketown]

Why are pcs better than macs?

best question yet

[dude]

I come from the school of thought to always compile from source for your system. Matter of fact, I don't have any colleagues (coworkers or friends) that use pre-compiled Unix binaries. Plus, when you compile from source, it allows you to install in a jailed directory, as opposed to default paths like in /usr or /usr/local, which can poison the system's build environment, especially after you start updating a specific application.

i.e. I install things in the /inst directory, with /inst/pkg-ver and /inst/pkg as subdirs. If I want to compile and install Apache 2.2.13, I'll do a "./configure --prefix=/inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13 [other options] && make && make install" to put it in /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13. After that I'll symlink /inst/pkg/httpd to /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13. Then if say Apache 2.2.14 is released, I'll compile/install in /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.14 and test it. If it's good, I'll change the httpd symlink in /inst/pkg to /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.14. Then if for some reason I need to roll back to 2.2.13, I can.

Ok, but then you have to add tons of paths in your $PATH env variable. That's annoying. I still compile certain packages when necessary, such as higher optimizations needed for time critical applications (like number crunching), or an application that doesn't provide binaries at all. Otherwise it's a loss of productivity. It was fun when I was in high school compiling my own distributions of Linux (very good learning experience), but now I don't see the point of compiling everything (other than learning).

[berto]

What's the best way to upgrade my IIe?

[Librarian]

What's the best way to upgrade my IIe?

New coat of paint, and installing a small fish tank in place of the monitor.

[old and wary]

Should I upgrade my OSX Ver10.4.11 183 ghz intel core 512 mb to leopard or do I need to do expensive stuff . have had for three years never a problem but thinking of upgrading Thanking you in advance

[timdps]

Trouble with Apple Mail Version 2.1.3 (753.1)

My email program has recently decided it does not want to download my email.

OS X 10.4.11 The POP account is Enabled, but one (of two) account name is grayed out in "Mailbox: Get New Mail. Have reset the Enable a couple of times and restarted the machine

I can still send mail and am currently reading my email on the web.

thanks,

tim

[JDay]

Is it possible to load Ubuntu or any other flavor of Unix on one of the new 15" Macbook Pros? I don't really want to use VMware Fusion as I don't want to pay for it, and would rather dual boot the OSX and Linux. I've searched online, and there really hasn't been a definitive answer nor how to do so. I've asked at a genius bar in a Apple store and they said no it wasn't possible. But I suspect he's just saying that cause Apple tells him so. I haven't bought a new Macbook yet, but the ability to do the above is what I'm basing my decision on.

OS X is UNIX certified.

[whobob]

How about Ubuntu or Linux base? I have some questions.