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  • #16
    Blackhawk556
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 4202

    Would you guys agree that the software apple makes (leopard iLife garage band and other stuff) is good bit their computers are just way over priced?

    Software= good
    hardware =overpriced
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    • #17
      ocabj
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      • Oct 2005
      • 7924

      How do resolve the failed linking for libiconv when compiling PHP 5.3 (stable or latest snapshot) under OS 10.6?

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      • #18
        artherd
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        • Oct 2005
        • 5038

        Originally posted by du9207
        Would you guys agree that the software apple makes (leopard iLife garage band and other stuff) is good bit their computers are just way over priced?

        Software= good
        hardware =overpriced
        For me - no. I'll gladly pay a little more for version controlled hardware. Infact, in that industry, Apple is *cheap*

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        • #19
          chiefcrash
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          • Jul 2006
          • 3408

          How do I make my mac something more than an overpriced PC with a prettied up version of FreeBSD on it?



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          • #20
            retired
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            • Sep 2007
            • 9409

            Okay, first let it be known I'm computer illiterate and didn't understand the technical stuff you were talking about. So, if you can help me, please dumb it down; real dumb.

            Our pc (now dead and in need of reformatting) had a program called Publisher and I used it to write my flyers for the Neighborhood Watch program I run in my neighborhood. I was able to set up columns on the left and right side to list my block captains. The narrative would be in the middle.

            I cannot find anything when I search that is similar. I keep on forgetting to call Apple, but since I just saw this forum, I thought I'd ask.

            I have been very lucky these last 9 months as nothing of a criminal nature has occurred, so a flyer has not been needed.

            Thanks for any help.

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            • #21
              ocabj
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              • Oct 2005
              • 7924

              You can setup columns in Microsoft Word. You don't need Publisher.

              The Mac has Word (Office 2008) or Pages in iWork:

              Get help creating letters, flyers, or essays, add images or charts, or continue editing your document from any Apple device with these Pages resources.

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              • #22
                domokun
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                • Apr 2008
                • 3525

                Originally posted by ocabj
                You can setup columns in Microsoft Word. You don't need Publisher.

                The Mac has Word (Office 2008) or Pages in iWork:

                http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/
                You can also use Scribus for Mac if you're looking for a "Desktop Publishing" software that costs $0.
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                • #23
                  sfwdiy
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 2146

                  Originally posted by ocabj
                  How do resolve the failed linking for libiconv when compiling PHP 5.3 (stable or latest snapshot) under OS 10.6?
                  Why are you doing this on 10.6? That's what linux is for.

                  Kidding, of course.


                  Seriously though, you can't get PHP to compile properly on 10.6? Is this for a web server?

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                  • #24
                    ocabj
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                    • Oct 2005
                    • 7924

                    Originally posted by sfwdiy
                    Why are you doing this on 10.6? That's what linux is for.

                    Kidding, of course.


                    Seriously though, you can't get PHP to compile properly on 10.6? Is this for a web server?

                    --B
                    I always install MySQL+PHP+Apache on my OS X boxes (I don't use the bundled php+apache) for local web dev. PHP 5.3 bundled works (and binaries from php.net). But compiling from source on 10.6 yields linker errors against liiconv and some dns libraries. It's a known issue on the php bug tracker. Supposedly fixed in snapshots, but not from what I found when I actually pulled a latest snapshot.

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                    • #25
                      sned45
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 746

                      Originally posted by mister dize
                      How do you install Windows on one?
                      Boot Camp Windows install and link it with Parallels, this way you can run Windows stand alone or in VM.

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                      • #26
                        sfwdiy
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2146

                        Originally posted by ocabj
                        I always install MySQL+PHP+Apache on my OS X boxes (I don't use the bundled php+apache) for local web dev. PHP 5.3 bundled works (and binaries from php.net). But compiling from source on 10.6 yields linker errors against liiconv and some dns libraries. It's a known issue on the php bug tracker. Supposedly fixed in snapshots, but not from what I found when I actually pulled a latest snapshot.
                        Huh. Gonna have to wait for the bug fix then, I guess. Why compile if the binaries work? Are you rolling your own custom code?

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                        • #27
                          ocabj
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                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7924

                          Originally posted by sfwdiy
                          Huh. Gonna have to wait for the bug fix then, I guess. Why compile if the binaries work? Are you rolling your own custom code?

                          --B
                          I come from the school of thought to always compile from source for your system. Matter of fact, I don't have any colleagues (coworkers or friends) that use pre-compiled Unix binaries. Plus, when you compile from source, it allows you to install in a jailed directory, as opposed to default paths like in /usr or /usr/local, which can poison the system's build environment, especially after you start updating a specific application.

                          i.e. I install things in the /inst directory, with /inst/pkg-ver and /inst/pkg as subdirs. If I want to compile and install Apache 2.2.13, I'll do a "./configure --prefix=/inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13 [other options] && make && make install" to put it in /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13. After that I'll symlink /inst/pkg/httpd to /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.13. Then if say Apache 2.2.14 is released, I'll compile/install in /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.14 and test it. If it's good, I'll change the httpd symlink in /inst/pkg to /inst/pkg-ver/httpd-2.2.14. Then if for some reason I need to roll back to 2.2.13, I can.

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                          • #28
                            TonyKat
                            Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 452

                            Originally posted by ocabj
                            ...I always install MySQL+PHP+Apache on my OS X boxes...
                            Why not just use the version that is already there?

                            EDIT: eh ok jailed directory i can see that logic, but I'm not a worry wort
                            Last edited by TonyKat; 09-01-2009, 2:04 PM. Reason: didn't see post above

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                            • #29
                              TonyKat
                              Member
                              • May 2006
                              • 452

                              Originally posted by ocabj
                              You can setup columns in Microsoft Word. You don't need Publisher.

                              The Mac has Word (Office 2008) or Pages in iWork:

                              http://www.apple.com/iwork/pages/
                              Or neo office http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php

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                              • #30
                                ocabj
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 7924

                                Look at my recent posts.

                                Not to mention that I do custom linking at compile time with various other dependencies.

                                Just because a Unix/Linux distribution comes with applications in the default install, it doesn't mean you should use them.

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