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  • #16
    DaveInOroValley
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2010
    • 8967

    Originally posted by garand1945
    Carboncopycloner app. Every mac user should have and know how to use. Then add backblaze and failures are just inconvenient not a possible data loss.
    Time Machine backups are much easier.
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    • #17
      Robotron2k84
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 2013

      Was the computer sleeping and woken by a Bluetooth device before it crashed?

      Looks like CPU 13 (CPU 0 core 2), trapped an exception when the machine changed power states.

      If so, that could indicate either a kernel or hardware bug, out of spec power on the system board, or to a single CPU VRU, or an incompatible device attached that responded incorrectly with the IOCTL call upon waking up.

      RAM could be the culprit, but depopulating RAM might only reduce power draw and hide a defective VRU on the CPU package.

      Really you need to send the stack trace back to Apple (store) so they can match it in their support DB to get the correct cause.

      ETA: check the firmware revision:

      The 2009 Mac Pro shares an identical motherboard with the 2010 model. With a firmware update, you can use newer CPUs and upgrade all the way to...


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      Last edited by Robotron2k84; 04-14-2021, 10:22 PM.

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      • #18
        Robotron2k84
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2017
        • 2013

        Originally posted by daveinwoodland
        Time Machine backups are much easier.

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        • #19
          Dnele928
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 685

          Lear60man,

          I knew it was cut and paste, just taking a fun poke at the sheer amount of text.

          Sorry I can’t help right now, perhaps some of the other more knowledgeable CGers can help.

          On another direction, I may need help on chartering a biz jet trip. When that time comes, I was planning on getting your advice. Ok?

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          • #20
            sonofeugene
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 4625

            This!
            Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

            A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

            Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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            • #21
              sonofeugene
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 4625

              Originally posted by daveinwoodland
              Time Machine backups are much easier.
              Time Machine sucks!
              Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

              A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

              Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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              • #22
                sonofeugene
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 4625

                Originally posted by garand1945
                Carboncopycloner app. Every mac user should have and know how to use. Then add backblaze and failures are just inconvenient not a possible data loss.
                CCC is awesome. Not only does it do backups, you end up with a bootable clone. Nothing is better than CCC.
                Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

                Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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                • #23
                  Robotron2k84
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 2013

                  CCC is just a front end for rsync, Recovery Partition Creator and bless (systemsetup). If you know those three included utilities, you can achieve the same result with a backup script and cron.

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                  • #24
                    DaveInOroValley
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 8967

                    I always have an external bootable drive so I guess if you don't have a good backup plan that would be a benefit. Personally I have three separate backups of my HD data and one regular bootable drive if the internal drive fails.
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                    • #25
                      DaveInOroValley
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 8967

                      Originally posted by sonofeugene
                      Time Machine sucks!
                      I can see you also don't keep an external drive that you can boot to. You also may want to read this if you're running the current OS:

                      Last edited by DaveInOroValley; 04-15-2021, 8:32 AM.
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                      • #26
                        Robotron2k84
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 2013

                        Originally posted by daveinwoodland
                        I always have an external bootable drive so I guess if you don't have a good backup plan that would be a benefit. Personally I have three separate backups of my HD data and one regular bootable drive if the internal drive fails.
                        TimeMachine has its place. But Apple’s idea of (inter)NetBoot and restore is kneecapped and retarded. That’s why the recovery partition exists, but it’s so limited in usefulness that a working bootable clone is always the easiest route.

                        Where TimeMachine shines, is when you need versioned backups of critical documents while employing delta compression.


                        Originally posted by daveinwoodland
                        I can see you also don't keep an external drive that you can boot to. You also may want to read this if you're running the current OS:

                        https://softwaretested.com/mac/carbo...-with-big-sur/
                        There are numerous problems with SIP and T2, that are not limited to backup utilities. Both are boondoggles for security and actively get in the way of actual productive system use. I would expect nothing less from a company run by progressive dogma.

                        I will not be giving up my current non-T2, Mojave-powered 32-bit capable Mac until it finally gives out. Next purchase will be running straight BSD on a better open platform. Apple has truly gone off the deep-end with respect to their professional user-base.

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                        • #27
                          lear60man
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 903

                          Originally posted by Robotron2k84
                          Was the computer sleeping and woken by a Bluetooth device before it crashed?

                          Looks like CPU 13 (CPU 0 core 2), trapped an exception when the machine changed power states.

                          If so, that could indicate either a kernel or hardware bug, out of spec power on the system board, or to a single CPU VRU, or an incompatible device attached that responded incorrectly with the IOCTL call upon waking up.

                          RAM could be the culprit, but depopulating RAM might only reduce power draw and hide a defective VRU on the CPU package.

                          Really you need to send the stack trace back to Apple (store) so they can match it in their support DB to get the correct cause.

                          ETA: check the firmware revision:

                          The 2009 Mac Pro shares an identical motherboard with the 2010 model. With a firmware update, you can use newer CPUs and upgrade all the way to...


                          .
                          Thank you! I think I found the issue. When I put this together I swapped out the original graphics card with another. It appears the new (used) one was bad. PUt the original one back in and no problems since (cross my fingers).

                          PM me anytime. Private jet charter is an are Im am knowledgeable in. Computer repair....nope

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