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  • 1911su16b870
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2006
    • 7654

    SATA HDD data download equipment or tools?

    Hello CG computer brain trust!

    I need to get data off two SATA HDD drives. They were in a Dell that had them joined together. Microsoft OS crashed and now I can not access them. I've set up a new HDD in the PC and it works, but when I plug in either drive, the BIOS seems to recognize them but the OS does not.

    What say you? What gear do you use to recover data off working drives? Will invest into some good kit to do this as it seems to come up every few years.
    "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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  • #2
    MrFancyPants
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 1160

    I have one of these, works fine. It connects to a USB port on any computer. There are single drive models as well, but this one is pretty cheap:



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    • #3
      HecklerNKoch
      Member
      • Jan 2016
      • 427

      This ... is not going to be easy for you.

      The best you can get it have someone walk you through it by you putting up pictures of where you're at.

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      • #4
        five.five-six
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2006
        • 34896

        how important is the data to you?

        It may be worth it to pay a professional a couple $ to recover it for you.

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        • #5
          C.G.
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 8245

          When you said "joined", were they in a Raid configuration and if so, which Raid? Also, were the drives encrypted? Do you want a mirror image or just retrieve some files? If you don't have the answers to those questions then the above posters may have something there about paying someone to transfer the files/programs.
          Last edited by C.G.; 04-18-2020, 10:37 PM. Reason: typo
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          • #6
            meno377
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            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jul 2013
            • 4911

            Originally posted by 1911su16b870
            Hello CG computer brain trust!

            I need to get data off two SATA HDD drives. They were in a Dell that had them joined together. Microsoft OS crashed and now I can not access them. I've set up a new HDD in the PC and it works, but when I plug in either drive, the BIOS seems to recognize them but the OS does not.

            What say you? What gear do you use to recover data off working drives? Will invest into some good kit to do this as it seems to come up every few years.
            When you say "joined together" do you mean Raid 0 or Raid 1?
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            • #7
              five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34896

              Originally posted by meno377
              When you say "joined together" do you mean Raid 0 or Raid 1?
              Could be jbod.

              Hire a professional.

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              • #8
                ocabj
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2005
                • 7924

                I sounds an awful like the drives were in a RAID0 configuration. Put the drives back in the original computer (plugged back in exactly like they were before). Boot of a live Linux boot disc or even a Windows boot disk and see if you can mount the original volume to recover the files.

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                • #9
                  castgold
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1531

                  I've used this place in OC many times in the past for my work database. They are my go-to, and a resource for some local/federal LEO investigators.

                  Data Recovery Services in Orange County. State of the art, industry leading innovation with a clean room based in Orange County,USA. Call today to schedule a visit.

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                  • #10
                    Dragunov
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1953

                    Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                    Hello CG computer brain trust!

                    I need to get data off two SATA HDD drives. They were in a Dell that had them joined together. Microsoft OS crashed and now I can not access them. I've set up a new HDD in the PC and it works, but when I plug in either drive, the BIOS seems to recognize them but the OS does not.

                    What say you? What gear do you use to recover data off working drives? Will invest into some good kit to do this as it seems to come up every few years.
                    I use Linux to rescue data off dead windows drives, and this:
                    Last edited by Dragunov; 04-19-2020, 6:49 AM.

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                    • #11
                      1911su16b870
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 7654

                      Thank you gentlemen! A lot of really good input and direction. I reached out to Alandata with a description of the PC service tag and types of drives and we'll see what they respond with.

                      ETA: the pc is a family one and photos were backed up previously (a couple months ago) so they don't need to be recovered. Wife and kids files are on it...my files not so much, but it is my favorite calguns surfing computer

                      From the Dell Service Tag: 342-0195 : Serial ATA II RAID 0 With Dual 750GB Hard Drives
                      Last edited by 1911su16b870; 04-19-2020, 10:06 AM.
                      "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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                      GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
                      Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
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                      • #12
                        Robotron2k84
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2017
                        • 2013

                        RAID-0, as implemented in a lot of SATA onboard-hardware is really JBOD-spanning: linear concatenation without container, encapsulation or stripe. You don’t get the performance or interleaving of true RAID-0, but generous caches and slow spindle speeds makes it a mostly-moot point. In the end, it’s safer for end users’ data, in the event recovery is necessary. The scheme is literally writing to one disk and at the end start writing to the other. If true, the data should be readable on either disk if the hardware is functional.

                        The real issue is probably NTFS considering the file system corrupt as it appears truncated, and refusing to read the contents. Use of Linux and a more tolerant NTFS driver may allow you to mount the volume and simply copy the data off to another drive.

                        However, if encapsulation was used, e.g. Windows Dynamic Disk without encryption, you will need to be able to edit the container to regain the disk set. This is more advanced and in the realm of data recovery. If encrypted, the data may be lost without the keys from the previous Windows installation, which is by design.

                        ETA: looking up the service tag shows that your system is a poweredge server? If that’s the case, it came with a PERC H710 card for RAID, and would include striping for RAID-0. If that is the case, you may need to engage help to revive a disk by swapping platters and frames. Not trivial.
                        Last edited by Robotron2k84; 04-19-2020, 12:12 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Turbinator
                          Administrator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 11943

                          Yeah, I'd definitely agree that swapping platters out of a disk drive is not trivial - this is clean room + qualified technician level stuff that typically can only happen back at the factory.

                          Turby

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                          • #14
                            the86d
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 9587

                            Originally posted by Turbinator
                            Yeah, I'd definitely agree that swapping platters out of a disk drive is not trivial - this is clean room + qualified technician level stuff that typically can only happen back at the factory.

                            Turby
                            This was done at my old vendor's place, but I don't know if I'd trust it...

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                            • #15
                              Robotron2k84
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 2013

                              It only requires a clean room if you expect the drive to do more than dump its contents once and be chucked in the shredder.

                              I’ve swapped platters before and you do need to take precautions, but the drive can even run and work for a time with the top cover off and the platters exposed. If you are diligent and do it in an enclosed box with a vacuum drawing filtered air under negative pressure, that’s usually all that’s necessary. Stuff a data retrieval outfit would have.

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